Viewsonic VX2025wm arrived! First impressions and pics

[Mh0user]

mine should be here bout weds of next week...damn you UPS for not shipping on weekends

[elvn]

All lcd's blur to some degree. Its a tradeoff vs crt for now. (Until they get the response times down to 1ms or less probably). There is a widescreen monitor review somewhere that shows this monitor and others in its class. I don't have the link handy at the moment, sorry.
The review shows that little cartoon car test in screenshots on each monitor, showing the afterimage on it. It also shows a text afterimage test. All the current LCDs have this problem , but on some it is more subdued than others. The VX2025wm is one of the better ones. The NEC is better but still has the effect, and also has twinkling on some videos, etc.. and costs over twice as much.

By the way, in response to the guy that said his white colors were off.. try 9300K color setting in the monitor controls. Yesterday I switched to that and I'm re-tweaking the rest of my settings to correspond with it. Before that my whites were alittle brown or yellow at 6500K.

[Blue Falcon]

I discovered the sRGB color profile the other day. It seems to offer much more contrast and purer more vibrant colors. Looks REALLY nice for games and movies...

[Blue Falcon]

I was playing around this morning and discovered that you can enable a hidden service menu if you power on while simultaneously pressing the 2 button.

Playing in the service menu on most monitors can result in severly b0rking your monitor if you do not know what you are doing. So if you do this be aware that if you screw something up it's your own fault. :p

You'll know you've done it right because the power light will be amber and the OSD menu will show up in the top left corner of the screen with an additional selectable menu item at the bottom labeled "F".


http://www.bbpix.com//files/1/vx2025wm_inputlag_test%20018_thumb.jpg
(http://www.bbpix.com//files/1/vx2025wm_inputlag_test%20018.jpg)


Here is what my service menu looks like:


http://www.bbpix.com//files/1/vx2025wm_inputlag_test%20019_thumb.jpg
(http://www.bbpix.com//files/1/vx2025wm_inputlag_test%20019.jpg)

Here (http://www.noxtek.com/files/vx2025wm_servicemenu.wmv) is a video illustrating the service menu. (9.3MB, Windows Media)


AUTO LEVEL is selectable, but you can't change it. Unsure of what the PASS and FAIL refer to.
GAIN and OFFSET appear to be status display items only and are not selectable or alterable.
The SELECT and COLOR items basically allow you to alter the built-in color temperature profiles. You basically SELECT the profile and change the R,G, and B values of the COLOR item. Note that doing this appears to permanently change the color temperature values in the normal OSD menu. If you plan to change this you should WRITE DOWN the original RGB values in case a factory reset doesn't bring them back.
Burnin is an interesting function, might be possible to get rid of stuck pixels using this. As seen in the video enabling the burnin option basically starts the panel on an (endless?) cycle between 8 colors at full brightness. While in burnin mode pressing the menu button to clear the menu results in a counter of some sort in the center of the screen. (also seen in the video)
I'm unsure of what exactly the item labeled SSC is, but it is adjustable. It doesn't appear to have any effect on the monitor or it's behavior when changed.

[Mh0user]

thats sweet..hahah i love easter eggs <3

[LostHere]

I have tried pressing 2 while powering on before, but I didn't realized there's a new "F" submenu there (I thought it only moves the menu to the top left). Nice find :)

Added: I can't figure out what SSC does neither. I was hoping it might stand for "screen scaling", but unfortunately, no.

[Mh0user]

g0sh i can't wait till it comes 3 more days! when i get it ill take some pictures of EQ2 and Quake 4

[Mh0user]

this being my first lcd and i have no clue about them...is there anyway to make this panel glossy...i mean the new asus uses the same panel as this display?

[Coldtronius]

this being my first lcd and i have no clue about them...is there anyway to make this panel glossy...i mean the new asus uses the same panel as this display?

Nope, it is what it is. I suppose you could stick a pane of glass in front of it, but your still gonna see the antiglare coating no matter what.

[j3ffry]

Got my replacement! I'm very lucky because when I bought it last month it has 1 dead pixel and after talking to the manager he replaced it with a brandnew one! now it's dead pixel free!

One more thing, in case you have a Xenon830 dvd player you can try to use the vga connection straight to your LCD..
That works for me! nice!

[burned-ati]

man this thread is 63 pages long lol. i cleared all my desktop icons off. and created quick launch instead. now it looks much better :) especially with my pimpin king kong wall paper :D

[animasaki]

Quick warning to anyone getting this monitor:

Using tweaked drivers for your videocard can be dangerous if you have this monitor connected via DVI. For instance, I had the ForceWare Ultras installed (I'm not sure which version) from Guru3d, and decided I would uninstall them to try out the latest betas from nVidia's site. What actually happened was when I uninstalled them, its more-thorough uninstall process effectively rendered the DVI port on my VX2025wm useless, and sent me back into 8-bit color mode.

A reformat solved my color issue (no big deal, one must expect the odd problem with tweaked drivers), but after weeks of trying different methods to get the DVI port working on my ViewSonic (along with sending it back to ViewSonic for repairs!), it remains broken, and I am continuing negotiations with their lacking support department.

In short, please note that tweaked videocard drivers can, in fact, sometimes permanently destroy seperate components if you aren't completely knowledable on what you're doing. This is not to bash the ForceWare Ultra driver sets, as I believe them to still be some of the higher-quality tweaked drivers around, but just to serve as a warning to those who may not realize the possible danger involved. :(

[AlphexHunter]

Am buying this monitor this friday thanks to this thread BUT if iI dont like it witch I highly doubt I will return it with my 30 day guarrantee and get the VX922 ;)

This whole thread really ownz

[Blue Falcon]

This is a known issue with some nvidia cards and the VX2025WM (and several other monitors). The EDID information in your monitor has become corrupt.

Have you tried using the DVI_Recover tool?

Quick warning to anyone getting this monitor:

Using tweaked drivers for your videocard can be dangerous if you have this monitor connected via DVI. For instance, I had the ForceWare Ultras installed (I'm not sure which version) from Guru3d, and decided I would uninstall them to try out the latest betas from nVidia's site. What actually happened was when I uninstalled them, its more-thorough uninstall process effectively rendered the DVI port on my VX2025wm useless, and sent me back into 8-bit color mode.

A reformat solved my color issue (no big deal, one must expect the odd problem with tweaked drivers), but after weeks of trying different methods to get the DVI port working on my ViewSonic (along with sending it back to ViewSonic for repairs!), it remains broken, and I am continuing negotiations with their lacking support department.

In short, please note that tweaked videocard drivers can, in fact, sometimes permanently destroy seperate components if you aren't completely knowledable on what you're doing. This is not to bash the ForceWare Ultra driver sets, as I believe them to still be some of the higher-quality tweaked drivers around, but just to serve as a warning to those who may not realize the possible danger involved. :(

[Mh0user]

(Shipped from Memphis, TN)
Tracking Number Issued: 6/26/2006 7:21:58 PM
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Item Description Quantity
24-116-381 MNTR VWSNC|LCD 20" 8msDVI VX2025WM 1


ooooo boy it is coming!

[animasaki]

Have you tried using the DVI_Recover tool?

Oh yes. More times than I care to remember, both CD and floppy version, on three different computers.

Yay. :(

[ReDgUaRd008]

Oh yes. More times than I care to remember, both CD and floppy version, on three different computers.

Yay. :(

I also had to use it. It worked but i dont like how it now thinks i have 2 Monitors and now is known as Digtal Device. :( It seems to only affect nVidia cards 6800+. My friend has a FX pci card and it works. Kinda piss me off a bit when i had to use VGA for about 3 weeks then finding out about DVI_recover.

[Blue Falcon]

I also had to use it. It worked but i dont like how it now thinks i have 2 Monitors and now is known as Digtal Device. :( It seems to only affect nVidia cards 6800+. My friend has a FX pci card and it works. Kinda piss me off a bit when i had to use VGA for about 3 weeks then finding out about DVI_recover.


Uninstall your drivers, run driver cleaner, and then re-install them and your displays should be detected properly once again.

[Blue Falcon]

Oh yes. More times than I care to remember, both CD and floppy version, on three different computers.

Yay. :(

Yikes. :(

RMA time...

[j3ffry]

Quick warning to anyone getting this monitor:

Using tweaked drivers for your videocard can be dangerous if you have this monitor connected via DVI. For instance, I had the ForceWare Ultras installed (I'm not sure which version) from Guru3d, and decided I would uninstall them to try out the latest betas from nVidia's site. What actually happened was when I uninstalled them, its more-thorough uninstall process effectively rendered the DVI port on my VX2025wm useless, and sent me back into 8-bit color mode.

A reformat solved my color issue (no big deal, one must expect the odd problem with tweaked drivers), but after weeks of trying different methods to get the DVI port working on my ViewSonic (along with sending it back to ViewSonic for repairs!), it remains broken, and I am continuing negotiations with their lacking support department.

In short, please note that tweaked videocard drivers can, in fact, sometimes permanently destroy seperate components if you aren't completely knowledable on what you're doing. This is not to bash the ForceWare Ultra driver sets, as I believe them to still be some of the higher-quality tweaked drivers around, but just to serve as a warning to those who may not realize the possible danger involved. :(

Hi just a newbie here and before I read your post I actually done what is stated in your post..

sadly I don't have any idea if I have damaged or something like that happened in my LCD..

Is there a particular way I would find it? and what about 8bit? how would I know that my LCD is running 8 bit or so..

thanks for the info!

[animasaki]

Trust me, j3ffry, if it was running in that low of a color setting, you'd definitely know it. Your whole screen would look like a garbled mess of colors. Also, the 8 bit color problem happened at the same time as my DVI port going out, so it was a part of a number of issues, resulting in my needing to reformat completely.

In other words, if you had my problem, you'd know it. Unless I missunderstood your question.

[j3ffry]

Trust me, j3ffry, if it was running in that low of a color setting, you'd definitely know it. Your whole screen would look like a garbled mess of colors. Also, the 8 bit color problem happened at the same time as my DVI port going out, so it was a part of a number of issues, resulting in my needing to reformat completely.

In other words, if you had my problem, you'd know it. Unless I missunderstood your question.

I'm currently here in the office.. I'll double check my monitor for some problems(i hope there's none).

thanks for the warning bro! I'll keep you posted so that everyone can be warned..

thanks!

[ReDgUaRd008]

Uninstall your drivers, run driver cleaner, and then re-install them and your displays should be detected properly once again.

I tried it no go. It still thinks i have two Monitors. During boot up it says No Signal thinking its the seconded monitor. Pics.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4624/nv6iu.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nv6iu.jpg)

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9998/display3ek.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=display3ek.jpg)

[Mastrhiggins]

For those who ordered from NewEgg.

Do you know what warehouse they ship it out of?

Because if it is on the East Coast I would get it rather quickly.
Like in 1 or 2 days.

[I3eyond]

For those who ordered from NewEgg.

Do you know what warehouse they ship it out of?

Because if it is on the East Coast I would get it rather quickly.
Like in 1 or 2 days.

I live in North Carolina, and most all of my packages from Newegg come from New Jersey.

However, the monitor came from California :(

[Blue Falcon]

For those who ordered from NewEgg.

Do you know what warehouse they ship it out of?

Because if it is on the East Coast I would get it rather quickly.
Like in 1 or 2 days.

My tracking info from when I ordered mine almost a month ago shows the origin location as being Baldwin Park, CA

[Mastrhiggins]

So Cali it is!

That means it will take the full 3 days : :mad:

[herbalicous]

When I move windows around on my screen to the right or left the vertical lines break around the window. Can anyone of you guys try something for me just open something like My Documents or anything and move it around to the right and left. Do you notice alot of jagged lines? I can't believe I am having this problem with this and it is not doing it at all in gaming. I have an old 15" Dell LCD that does this very slightly but not near as bad as this.

[elvn]

If I understand the broken lines you are seeing correctly - the window frames also do this on my magnavox 19" CRT which I happen to be using at the moment, so I doubt it has anything to do with your lcd. This only happens when I move the windows frantically back and forth.

I think its probably just an artifact of the window animations. There are visual effects in Control Panel->System->Performance tab, Visual Effects tab. It might be related to the overlay stuff in the video card drivers too.

When I disabled "Show windows contents while dragging", moving the window would actually move an empty frame outline. This outline would remain 'empty' until I released the mouse button, when it would move the contents of the original window into it. Interestingly moving the empty window frame spastically back and forth also made the frame border line break up.

I'm guessing its a windows glitch few people would notice.

[Blue Falcon]

When I move windows around on my screen to the right or left the vertical lines break around the window. Can anyone of you guys try something for me just open something like My Documents or anything and move it around to the right and left. Do you notice alot of jagged lines? I can't believe I am having this problem with this and it is not doing it at all in gaming. I have an old 15" Dell LCD that does this very slightly but not near as bad as this.

THIS IS TOTALLY NORMAL.


It's weird that this topic is being rehashed so much the past week. It's totally normal behavior in any version of Windows since Windows 95 and is nothing to be concerned about.

If you don't like it, look in the 'Effects' portion of the display control panel and untick the check box for 'Show window contents while dragging'

[Cycloptersaurus]

I'm considering getting this monitor as my first LCD, but I'm worried that in the future, when video games require even better video cards then the one I have, that I won't be able to run games in the LCD's native resolution. Is this a valid issue? how big of a difference would native resolution make in games?

Also, how do you guys think this compares to the Dell 2407WFP?

[Mastrhiggins]

Ordered mine from ZipZoomFly today.

Only because they offered 2 day Fedex for only 12.99.

So for an extra $10 compared to NewEgg
I will have it by Friday!
I can't wait until Monday!

The guy I spoke too at NewEgg told me to have a Eggcellent day.....

[Mastrhiggins]

Has anyone tried HD on this thing?

How does 720p look?

1080i is bigger than the native resolution.

Does it scale it down?

[[CaM]Spoon]

Im in the family now. Just picked it up at bestbuy for 399 cdn.
Looks great and cant go wrong with performance vs price range.
Latter i might wanna add that new lcd stand to give it hight adjustment.

Crap just noticed dead pixel... what to do what to do.

[j3ffry]

Spoon']Im in the family now. Just picked it up at bestbuy for 399 cdn.
Looks great and cant go wrong with performance vs price range.
Latter i might wanna add that new lcd stand to give it hight adjustment.

Crap just noticed dead pixel... what to do what to do.


Try to call or talk to your local distributor.. That's what I did when I discover 1 dead pixel in my LCD. Luckily they are kindly enough to replace it with a new one. :p

[[CaM]Spoon]

crap now theres 2 dead pixels

[d][g][tal]

just bring it back to bestbuy and ask for exchange, that's the only good thing buying from bestbuy, no question asked.

[[CaM]Spoon]

LOL!!!
I flicked the monitor where the dead pixel is with my finger nail, and it fixed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL! YES!!!!!! love how smashing electronics fixes stuff!.

I remember reading about this too like 6 years ago.

[XBOA2000]

I can't seem to add the resolutions 1280x800 and 1440x900 to the list of resolutions this monitor can display. I am using an Nvidia 7800gt, and when I got to add the refresh rate, it says, "The custom resolution cannot be added." Also, has anyone figured out how to use "centered output" or "fixed aspect ratio scaling" with the 7 series? I'm using drivers 91.31. These two things are my main, and major gripes with this monitor.

[AlphexHunter]

Spoon']LOL!!!
I flicked the monitor where the dead pixel is with my finger nail, and it fixed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL! YES!!!!!! love how smashing electronics fixes stuff!.

I remember reading about this too like 6 years ago.



With your nail you could of caused more damage to the monitor by scraching the glass then you'd have a much bigger probleme... :eek:

But glad it worked lol :D

[Vashypooh]

I just ordered mine form Newegg. Should see it sometime this week. Im really excited to be leaving my A90F+ Viewsonic behind. It was a great monitor, but I really want a nice LCD and this looked like the perfect one for me. This thread basicly sealed the deal on which to get :D

[[CaM]Spoon]

Not finger tip but the base of finger nail as if your flicking something. Plus you cant stratch a monitor with your finger nail anyway.

I love this monitor. I had it last month at $499 and bestbuy wouldnt price match another store which sold it for 439. I told them that if you wont price match then why should i keep it and why would you want me to return it? They are stupid people at bestbuy and the manager said he will add 15 % extra over the 439 becuase that store charges restocking fee. Mean while that works out to be same price and i told them i want the monitor and dont plan on returning it but again they were hardheaded. So F them i returned it.

Finally bestbuy lowered it to 399 so i picked it up! ahAHAHAHA.
This one is actually better (now that dead pixel is fixed) I have hardly and backlight bleeding which my other one had and the picture is beutiful.

Highly recommanded for peopole looking for performance on a budget. Its a steal.

[Vashypooh]

I was able to buy mine for $343.60 USD. Figured it was a great price for the reviews the monitor did recieve. I cant wait to get my monitor this week =D only problem is they shiped UPS lol;;

[Don_1]

I was able to buy mine for $343.60 USD. Figured it was a great price for the reviews the monitor did recieve. I cant wait to get my monitor this week =D only problem is they shiped UPS lol;;
I picked mine up from the local ups office and there was a large tear in the box.
I had the ups worker note it and he let me open the box and inspect the contents.
Lucky for me that the monitor had no problems.
UPS sucks at taking care of delicate electronics.

[Vashypooh]

Yea, I will imediately deny shipment if its physically damaged. Newegg will understand that lol, they are big on tryin to help. I will take pictures etc etc. They are good on that aspect

[XeNo1686]

This is my first LCD and first widescreen. I decided to make the shift and I AM HAPPY. Wonderful monitor, clear, sharp. Im amazed by the difference between an old 17" CRT and this thing.

If you are thinking about getting this monitor or are new to the widescreen or LCD scene, Please do yourself a favor and BUY THIS THING. :cool:

[jabronidan]

I really wanna buy this monitor but I'm worried about dead pixels (as many people were/are). I don't have a Fry's near me, so that's out of the question. Should I just order it from Newegg or ZZF?

[Skelaton4]

i would go with newegg but.. just b/c i love newegg.. but i havent ever tried Zip and zoom

[jabronidan]

i would go with newegg but.. just b/c i love newegg.. but i havent ever tried Zip and zoom

Yeah, I think I'll just go with it, hopefully I won't have 7 dead pixels in the middle of my screen, :(

[Skelaton4]

i got a open box one and it came perfect.. no dead pixals or anything.. i gues si was lucky but its sweet

[vegeta311]

hey guys, i just registered so i could join in on this thread, so i want to know your thoughts
on a couple things,

1. this is the card im thinkin about getting:
BFG GeForce 7800 GS OC AGP 8X 256MB GDDR3 Video Card
will i have any probs with this card? like the no signal thing, or the DVI problem,

2. im worried also about dead pixels, who has the best/easiest return policy, compared to Newegg, i dont wanna get burned on 7 dead pixels... any thoughts?

[[CaM]Spoon]

if your worrierd about dead pixels then buy it from store not from online. Its only like 1-10 youll get a dead pixel. Just give it a tap and youll never know it might fix it like mine : )

dead pixels are normal for lcds though. So dont be suprised and dont be a picky baby.
I was gonna keep mine even with the dead pixel. 1 dead pixel is nothing, only makes you look like a fool for waisting time returning it. But thats me.
I noticed most poeple in this forum are soooo picky.

[sparks]

couple of questions.

right now I have an x800xl but my new system(as soon as conroe hits) will have an x1800xt
512m ( have one in the box).....will these run the res needed?

I know there were tons of post about will it or won't it support lower res games.
Like diablo that is fixed at 800x600....do you get stretched or will it just do the game with black borders?

thanks big time for info


sparks

[jabronidan]

Will my 6600GT have problems with this monitor (DVI issues)?

Also, looks like tiger direct has a good policy on returning LCD's, can anyone confirm this?

[view]

Quick warning to anyone getting this monitor:

Using tweaked drivers for your videocard can be dangerous if you have this monitor connected via DVI. For instance, I had the ForceWare Ultras installed (I'm not sure which version) from Guru3d, and decided I would uninstall them to try out the latest betas from nVidia's site. What actually happened was when I uninstalled them, its more-thorough uninstall process effectively rendered the DVI port on my VX2025wm useless, and sent me back into 8-bit color mode.

A reformat solved my color issue (no big deal, one must expect the odd problem with tweaked drivers), but after weeks of trying different methods to get the DVI port working on my ViewSonic (along with sending it back to ViewSonic for repairs!), it remains broken, and I am continuing negotiations with their lacking support department.

In short, please note that tweaked videocard drivers can, in fact, sometimes permanently destroy seperate components if you aren't completely knowledable on what you're doing. This is not to bash the ForceWare Ultra driver sets, as I believe them to still be some of the higher-quality tweaked drivers around, but just to serve as a warning to those who may not realize the possible danger involved. :(

Do you mean that an uninstall on the computer would uninstall something in the monitor to render it useless, or just on the computer? Would the monitor work with other computers? Just something similair happened to me when uninstalling things which seemed to have rendered my monitor without 1680x1050 on the VGA, even when trying with other computers, reformat and so on.

Did you solve it at the end? I'm still having no success after trying almost everything.

[Vashypooh]

Will my 6600GT have problems with this monitor (DVI issues)?

Also, looks like tiger direct has a good policy on returning LCD's, can anyone confirm this?

Wouldnt buy from them even if you shoved it down my throat

http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1983.html

Garbage

[Domingo]

I just picked one of these up over the weekend (I'm getting all of my preparations done for a Conroe system later this month) and I'm loving it.
Pretty much every game I have will work with it via little tweaking. Even old games that only do 4:3 still look terrific in a 1280X124 w/ bars on the side. In a dark room, you wouldn't even notice ;)

I've got a 6800GT and thus far all of my games that I used to run at 1280X1024 run more or less the same speed at 1680X1050 with no detail changes. Once I get a 7900 or 7950 I should have FPS to spare.

Once nice thing is that the colors seem to have been pre-set out of the box. When I ran the nvidia optimizer, everything was perfect with no adjustments. Blacks on this monitor are GREAT, too.

2 thumbs up from me!

[AlphexHunter]

Well thats nice to hear and that a good idea closing the lights and you wont notice haha i'll dot that when am playing Tiberian Sun thanks! Now i can't wait to pick up this monitor!

[Cycloptersaurus]

I recently used the 2 DVI ports in my card to compare my dad's 19 inch AOpen LCD with my 20 inch CRT, and overall I think I prefer the LCD. The blacks are much darker, though there was a lot of it and it was sometimes difficult to differentiate between really dark shades and colors. The colors were much more vibrant, and looking back at my CRT, it looks like it's in the middle of a fog or something. Call of Duty 2 looked great on the LCD (I played the D-Day mission, bright colors) but it was less impressive in FEAR, with all the dark shadows.

I'm also having some technical problems with my CRT (it was a refurb, and fairly cheap, I think it's time to replace it). I'm thinking that LCD is the way to go (and widescreen rules), and this one particularly as any larger models with higher native resolution may be problematic with games down the road. I won't be using it for consoles or DVDs, I have a big nice HDTV already, but for computer games, working in Photoshop, surfing the internet and so forth.

I guess my question is how does this LCD handle dark colors? And are the pixels really obvious and prominent?

I'm also a little unclear about HDCP. Will the monitor show PC games and downloaded videos in full resolution even without HDCP support?

[Domingo]

I had a Sony 19" LCD and the blacks on it were horrendous. The closest thing you could get was a dark grey color. In a game like Doom (which isn't great to start with), it was AWFUL.
The 2025WM is the closest thing I've seen to a CRT in terms of black levels.
In terms of pixels, I suppose it just depends on what resolution you're used to. This one is native 1680X1050, so it's pretty big...BUT if you're used to something larger or running in a non-native res you might have issues. Of note 1280X1024 looks terrific on this monitor, too. If you have to play in 4:3 mode, that's the perfect resolution to use. It looks like a native res only with black bars.

[Mh0user]

yeah i got mine i love it zero dead pixels <3

http://myspace-015.vo.llnwd.net/00895/51/05/895505015_l.jpg

[Cycloptersaurus]

Huh, thanks for the info Domingo. I just saw one at office depot, but it was in the light and I wasn't able to play games and such, but it looked great. I'll mostly be playing in pretty dark conditions too, so it's hard to tell how I'll like it, but from what I saw, I was impressed.

So does anybody know the answer to my HDCP question?

[Skelaton4]

no it doesnty support HDCP

[Cycloptersaurus]

no it doesnty support HDCP

I'm just a little mixed up on what HDCP will do, once Vista comes out. I won't be playing DVDs or Blu-Ray/HD-DVD videos on my PC, nor will I be hooking this monitor to my PS3/360. I'll be using it for PC games and downloaded videos and the like. Will HDCP still be a problem?

[KenDawg]

I'm just a little mixed up on what HDCP will do, once Vista comes out. I won't be playing DVDs or Blu-Ray/HD-DVD videos on my PC, nor will I be hooking this monitor to my PS3/360. I'll be using it for PC games and downloaded videos and the like. Will HDCP still be a problem?
No, it won't be a problem. Here, read this: http://www.pcstats.com/artvnl.cfm?articleID=1871

[DocHolliday]

How does the VX2025 perform under conditions with a lot of light? I am almost certain on getting this monitor but I will most likely be using it in a good amount of light, and i just want to make sure it will be OK.

[Lord Rahl]

Spoon']if your worrierd about dead pixels then buy it from store not from online. Its only like 1-10 youll get a dead pixel. Just give it a tap and youll never know it might fix it like mine : )

dead pixels are normal for lcds though. So dont be suprised and dont be a picky baby.
I was gonna keep mine even with the dead pixel. 1 dead pixel is nothing, only makes you look like a fool for waisting time returning it. But thats me.
I noticed most poeple in this forum are soooo picky.

Well yeah, of course they are going to be picky. I almost emptied my bank account on my Samsung 215tw, and if it had one dead pixel, I would have taken it back, plain and simple.

[j3ffry]

Good day guys!

Just got my newly replaced LCD.

Just have one problem though. Don't know particularly if it's because of the LCD or the VideoCard..

The problem goes this way..

I'm playing for about an hour and what will happen is the monitor will just turn off and on and off and it will go that way forever. But I noticed that the CPU is still working, fans are ok, all is OK but the monitor is off.

Now, what I will do is force shut down the CPU and after 5mins turn it on again and there you go, all is fine but it will suddenly go off again after hours of playing..

what could be it guys?

Thank you very for your help!

Specs:

Videocard= Inno3d 6600 vanilla
PSU= TASK 500watts brand new
CPU= Intel 2.8 with HT lga775
Monitor= Viewsonic VX2025

[Vashypooh]

may want to take some time to check your video card temp. that sounds like it might be overheating. Play a game while monitoring VGA temp. if it gets to like 70-80 you may want to concider something simple like applying Arctic Silver and seeing if there is improvement. 70-80 IMO is on the borderline overheating, some cards will work just fine in that range, some cards will go very emo and turn themselfs off.

[j3ffry]

may want to take some time to check your video card temp. that sounds like it might be overheating. Play a game while monitoring VGA temp. if it gets to like 70-80 you may want to concider something simple like applying Arctic Silver and seeing if there is improvement. 70-80 IMO is on the borderline overheating, some cards will work just fine in that range, some cards will go very emo and turn themselfs off.


The problem is there's no temp monitoring "enabled" in my videocard.. unless you flash the BIOS or something like that which is dangerous in my opinion.. However I do tried touching the Viedocard after I shut it down and it's not that "hot" afterall..

[Voltron]

You using DVI, j3ffry?

[Vashypooh]

you would have to touch the card under load, GPU cool very rapidly, after a shutdown its probably at idle temp already, they get really hot very fast and cool very quickly I guess thats how they designed

[layzie_b81]

Well i just recieved my VX2025wm monitor yesterday from Newegg, no dead pixels what so ever, so happy about that. One problem though, while trying out Fifa World Cup 2006 and Pro Evolution Soccer I noticed a consideral amount of ghosting! :( Its drivng me nuts! Now i'm not sure whats causing this, but I do have a system thats aging worse than my grandma. Anyhow, i'm running it on a Athlon Xp 2000 with a Geforce 6600 GT. Now do you guys think that maybe my system ( lack of, should i say) be causing the ghosting?? All be upgrading my system at the end of the month. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

Oh ya, i had the DVI issues at first, but the DVI recover fix that someone posted earlier fixed that :)

[Vashypooh]

hmm, perhaps try playing your game on a CRT monitor and see if you think its ghosting there. Also make sure you let the monitor warm up some, it can also cause ghosting i believe. Your video card could just be outputing slow FPS and making you think its ghosting

[Domingo]

hmm, perhaps try playing your game on a CRT monitor and see if you think its ghosting there. Also make sure you let the monitor warm up some, it can also cause ghosting i believe. Your video card could just be outputing slow FPS and making you think its ghosting

To be honest, if you're used to a CRT, pretty much *ALL* LCD's will ghost. I've used 5-6 including those that are claiming 4ms and they still all have a little bit of motion blur.
Of the ones I've used, this one is one of the best as far as that goes, but it's still there and if you're used to a CRT you'd be blind not to notice it. It's all relative.
Once you use it for 3-4 weeks, I bet you won't notice anymore. I have LCD monitors and an LCD projection TV and after a month, you'll forget all about it and you won't notice at all.

[layzie_b81]

Ya maybe its cause i'm used to the CRT. This is my first LCD. I'm not usually picky about these kind of things but the ghosting really stands out. There were no problems with the games when i played them on my old CRT. I have all the lastest drivers for my video card also. Everything looks beautifull on this LCD, just the ghosting is what giving me a headache.

[Domingo]

Ya maybe its cause i'm used to the CRT. This is my first LCD. I'm not usually picky about these kind of things but the ghosting really stands out. There were no problems with the games when i played them on my old CRT. I have all the lastest drivers for my video card also. Everything looks beautifull on this LCD, just the ghosting is what giving me a headache.

My Sony did that when I first got it. The much higher resolution did, too. I ran Windows at 800X600 for a *long* time, so seeing all of the tiny fonts also likely had an effect.
The only knock I have on the VX2025 is that on a black page, any white fonts or objects seem to have a metallic shimmer. The Hardforum is actually a good place to see what I mean. Check out the thread titles.

[j3ffry]

You using DVI, j3ffry?

Yup! Don't have other monitor or videocard to test it.. I'm hoping though if there's something wrong it would be the videocard... :(

[jabronidan]

Wow, Just got this and holy shit. No problems, looks like no dead pixels (I don't want to check, ignorance is bliss). This looks great, wow. :D

[Vashypooh]

I jsut got mine today, I love this thing, Unfortunately I had dead pixels. but using a damp paper towl and gentle rubing and a flick or two they started right up. Thanks for this wonder full post convincing me to buy this huge monitor lol

[aurac]

Hi all, after reading the reviews on this thread I decided to buy a vx2025 from scan.co.uk here in the UK.

This is my first LCD coming from a Philips 19" flatscreen CRT, so I don't have much experience with dead pixels, etc. However the first thing I noticed upon switching it on is these marks (click for larger images):

http://star-www.dur.ac.uk/~djrs/upload/1a.jpg (http://star-www.dur.ac.uk/~djrs/upload/1.jpg) http://star-www.dur.ac.uk/~djrs/upload/2a.jpg (http://star-www.dur.ac.uk/~djrs/upload/2.jpg)

As far as I can tell, they're not actually dead pixels but dirty marks underneath the antiglare coating. Has anyone else seen similar? I guess what I'm asking is should I try sending it back to Scan or am I just being over fussy? Is an online company likely to replace it over something as small as this?

I'm also hesitant to send it back as I'm having too much fun playing Oblivion on it :)

http://star-www.dur.ac.uk/~djrs/upload/3a.jpg (http://star-www.dur.ac.uk/~djrs/upload/3.jpg) http://star-www.dur.ac.uk/~djrs/upload/4a.jpg (http://star-www.dur.ac.uk/~djrs/upload/4.jpg)

I'll also throw in my 2-cents of a review here:

It really is quite big; the extra screen space is very noticeable over the 19". With default settings colours are vivid, text is sharp and there's no noticeable purple haze. The 'pseudo'-backlight bleeding everyone's talking about is noticeable on a dark screen but it's not too distracting.

I also thought the anti-glare coating was going to be more of a problem than it is. I remember first seeing it on the Viewsonic VP930 and going 'eww' - but you get used to it surprisingly quickly.

Watching TV/DIVX/DVDs on it is also enjoyable. The nature of the LCD does tend to bring out the compression artifacts in the source but there is almost no banding present, so transitions between colours are smooth. Overall the image is a bit sparkly (noisy) but only when you're up close. If you're viewing from a distance - where I normally tend to watch DVDs from - it's fine. The benefits of watching widescreen format video on a 16:10 monitor far outweigh any of the negatives - it really is a joy to watch such content in this format:

http://star-www.dur.ac.uk/~djrs/upload/5a.jpg (http://star-www.dur.ac.uk/~djrs/upload/5.jpg)

[Noni]

You on HEXUS mate? Give them a thread there and they will sort you out!

http://forums.hexus.net/forumdisplay.php?f=49

[animasaki]

aurac, I may have good news for you. I had one of those marks in the lower right corner of my screen. I'm not sure if this will happen with yours, but it gradually 'cleaned out' over time, and completely dissappeared. I'm not sure if that's a good reason to keep it, but if you're already leaning that way, that should give you some hope. ;)

[Blue Falcon]

Watching TV/DIVX/DVDs on it is also enjoyable. The nature of the LCD does tend to bring out the compression artifacts in the source but there is almost no banding present, so transitions between colours are smooth. Overall the image is a bit sparkly (noisy) but only when you're up close. If you're viewing from a distance - where I normally tend to watch DVDs from - it's fine. The benefits of watching widescreen format video on a 16:10 monitor far outweigh any of the negatives - it really is a joy to watch such content in this format:

Find a SuperBit DVD and watch it on this monitor... it's downright drool worthy. :D

[psychoace]

Find a SuperBit DVD and watch it on this monitor... it's downright drool worthy. :D

Better yet find some High def movies "somewhere" and watch them you will absolutly piss your pants.

[aurac]

You on HEXUS mate? Give them a thread there and they will sort you out!

Thanks! Didn't know about that - it's not obviously advertised on Scan's site...


I'm not sure if this will happen with yours, but it gradually 'cleaned out' over time, and completely dissappeared

Animasaki, how long did it take to clear? how big was it to start off with and did you 'encourage' it all, eg massaging...


Better yet find some High def movies

Yeah I have a few high-bitrate TS files - it's pretty sweet :cool:

[animasaki]

I tried massaging it, but that didn't seem to affect it at all. It went away in about two weeks, I believe. I honestly have no idea how it went away, but it just gradually started dissappearing. :confused:

[rampantandroid]

I just got one...and myself and a friend tried it at work on his ATi 9200...

Sooo...what happened is we hooked up up on the DVI link, and found we couldn't get it to run at 1680x1050, even with drivers installed...(computer wouldn't let us select it)...then he tried to put it at some resolution well above what the monitor can handle...it suddenly went static (multicolored static) and then after all we got was a "no signal" message...

Switch to Analog, and it works fine.

Is this just the stupid DVI bug, or is this thing dead now?

Thanks.

OH - tried it on a laptop that has analog out...when at 1680x1050, it has lines of intereference running across it horizontally, that weren't there when we tried it on the 9200 later on...

[alpha0ne]

I just got one...and myself and a friend tried it at work on his ATi 9200...
Sooo...what happened is we hooked up up on the DVI link, and found we couldn't get it to run at 1680x1050, even with drivers installed...(computer wouldn't let us select it)...then he tried to put it at some resolution well above what the monitor can handle...it suddenly went static (multicolored static) and then after all we got was a "no signal" message...

Switch to Analog, and it works fine.

Is this just the stupid DVI bug, or is this thing dead now?

Thanks.

OH - tried it on a laptop that has analog out...when at 1680x1050, it has lines of intereference running across it horizontally, that weren't there when we tried it on the 9200 later on...

Maybe a more powerful VGA is needed :confused:

[rampantandroid]

Think it'll work fine on my evga 7800GT?

[KenDawg]

Think it'll work fine on my evga 7800GT?
no. you need a new video card. sorry.

[Vashypooh]

Problem: I cannot get the monitor to run things with the black bars on the side. No matter what i check for scale it to right size, dont scale it. It just isnt doing anything, its always stretching it to the full screen ;( Its an ATI card Runing Omega drivers with ATI Tray Tools. Any ideas anyone?

[rampantandroid]

no. you need a new video card. sorry.
Really? Nuts...I'll just throw my GT in the trash...


But yeah, got home...plugged it in...worked immdiatly...

I love it, but two things that I see wrong:
sparkle noted by other people due to antiglare coating
colors seem washed out (any good fix for this? Monitor's colors are all maxed out...maybe digital vibrance on the nV drivers?)

Otherwise: no ghosting, no tearing, no dead pixels. Other than the washed out colors in BF2 (going to try Far Cry tomorrow to see how it looks...to an extent, BF2 looks washed out regardless of the monitor.) I love this thing...esp since the sparkling colors are something I can get used to...



oh...I DO have the backlight bleeding from the corners out...nothing that really annoys me, but its there. I'll try watching a movie tomrrow to see if it disrupts my ability to watch...but I really doubt it will.

[dR.Jester]

Does anyone know if the Widescreen LCD carry from Geargrip will work on the VX2025wm? Im needing something for QuakeCon and their Widescreen model arrives on the 14th (this Friday).

[burned-ati]

What is quake con?

[eclipse2006]

What is quake con?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=quakecon&btnG=Google+Search

[t4t3r]

i picked up a viewsonic vx2025wm last night and it is amazing. i just have one problem, and unfortunately i might have to return/exchange it, but maybe you guys can tell me if i'm just seeing things or not. basically it seems as if the far right side of the screen is a little bit darker than the rest (rest is pretty much perfect). the right side also seems to have a slight reddish tinge to it. here are a couple screenshots that hopefully show what im talking about:

screenshot1 (linked due to size) (http://webpages.shepherd.edu/rtate01/ss.jpg)
take a look at the far right side, it doesnt quite have the same coloring as the rest of the screen

http://webpages.shepherd.edu/rtate01/vx20205%20002.jpg
this one is just a blank mozilla window, but it looks to me like the right side is a bit darker than the rest.



what do you guys think?

[animasaki]

You might try making sure there aren't any electronics or magnets near the monitor. I'm not sure about LCDs, but I know CRTs are heavily affected by those at times.

Of course, it may just be a faulty monitor. Sure looks strange, though...

[KenDawg]

You just posted a screenshot. That means we see whatever you are SUPPOSED TO see, so we wouldn't see the problem from that.

Then, in the actual picture of the screen, it DOES look like the right side is darker, but the picture isn't taken from the center -- it's from the left. If you took that pic from the right side of the screen, the left might look darker.

It's hard to tell unless you try another picture, this time from the right of the screen. Then, if the right side still looks dim, there's a problem.

[t4t3r]

yeah that's true kendawg, it's getting late and i'm pretty tired, which is why i wanted to get an opinion since maybe im seeing things. returning/exchanging it isnt a problem, as its the reason i bought it from a b&m, along with the sale price.

anyways, here is a photo from the right side. the first one was pretty much dead straight, i just had the camera slightly tilted which skewed the picture a little.

http://webpages.shepherd.edu/rtate01/ss2.jpg

[dR.Jester]

Better safe than sorry.

Return it!

[KenDawg]

to me, both sides look a tad dark, with the right side being a little more. mine might even be like that but i won't notice unless i stare at a white screen

i'd rather not look that closely because i'm much more happy not knowing :)

[t4t3r]

haha i try to follow "the ignorance is bliss" saying as well, but some things i'm just a bit more picky over. i'm going to return it today, but since they don't have any more in stock i wont be able to do an exchange. i guess i will keep looking around and if i dont see anything else i like, perhaps i will try another vx2025wm. the only thing is i'm scared of this dvi issue people randomly have, and since i've already had one with a screen i wasn't too thrilled with, i'm also not too thrilled with their quality so far. like i said, i think i'm just too picky :D

[Vaeldain]

I don't notice anything. Frankly I think you people are getting a little absurd in your expectations with LCDs. There will always be something wrong with it if you look hard enough. Just be happy you got an amazing widescreen monitor for a fraction of the price of other LCDs the same size.

[sdk]

I just got back from the store and for $455 Canadian I am the proud owner of a new 2025WM!

It was a great deal and I couldent refuse concidering I was getting it cheaper and from a B&M store. I have 0 dead pixels, I havent tested the blacklight issues because its daytime but it looks pretty good. I got no ghosting in CS and let me tell you CS 1.6 at 1680x1050 is insane! Its so freaking big, almost to big. I am going to have to relearn how to play competative CS now. I am going to fire up FEAR, BF2 GRAW and some other games later. Its gonna be fun.

This by far is the nicest LCD I have ever owned, okay well its only my second, but the 20" Wides are where its at. I was going to get a x1800XL then get this monitor, but I am happy I got it now. GO BUY THIS NOW.

[FireStormGS]

Did you grab yours at bestbuy on sale as well sdk?

I just picked up a vx2025wm today as well, unfourtunatly I've got one pixel that IS acting up. :mad:

[sdk]

I posted in your thread, but I went to CanadaComputers. I was going to order from NCIX, but that was going to be 488 after shipping, and why buy online and wait when I found it for 399 from CC and I paid 455 out the door. + if anything goes wrong its only a 10 minute drive, and I am LOVING this LCD. Its amazing.

[howieh60]

I saw some mention of a better stand for the Viewsonic VX2025wm here and I ordered a stand when I purchased my monitor.
It's a Neo-Flex by Ergotron and you can raise and lower the monitor 5" turn, rotate 90 degrees
it makes it great for Photoshop for me now. The base is actually a bit wider then the original.
The 4 small plugs on the back are for VESA mounting. I'll see about posting a few screen shots

[marley1]

Think it'll work fine on my evga 7800GT?

im running mine ona 7800GT no problems.

bets lcd i have used so far, and i have use a good deal of dells/viewsonic/benq/fuji/samsungs/etc/etc/etc

[Acer]

Mine seems to have the same issue as t4t3r. The right side of the screen looks reddish and is slightly darker than the rest of the screen. Is this a known issue, or should I return mine as well?

[dodoei]

I got mine yesterday. Right side of the monitor also looks darker/reddish... I'm going to return/exchange it. Hopefully they can let me test one in store.

[mtbaird]

I got mine a while back and it looked like that too. Noone else in my family could see it so I ignored it. im not sure if its still there, ill check when i get home.

but if returning it is to much of a hassle you'll ignore the darker area after a while

[Acer]

honestly, its not that big of deal if this is the norm for this monitor. But if it is an issue just with a few of these, then I want to return it. Is this with a certain video card perhaps? I have an x800xt.

[dodoei]

I have 6800 ultra

[t4t3r]

wow, interesting to see that other people are having the same problem i did. after reading a user review on another site recently, i looked at his actual photos of the monitor in action and didn't see the same darkness/reddish tint to the right side - his actually looked absolutely perfect. i believe it was on the anandtech forums, IIRC. i was running a 9800 non-pro on mine.

perhaps there was a bad batch that got around, but honestly, it bothered me too much to keep it. the store i bought it from had none left to exchange, so i got my refund and am continuing my search for another monitor.

[Iano]

Thought I'd chime in, I purchased this monitor just the other day and I have the darker/reddish tint on the right hand side. I'm also experiencing horrible backlighting. I've seen a few places mention that this is a reflection issue, but it literally looks like puffy clouds are coming out of the top right. I haven't decided to exchange or just return and wait for something better. One of the two will happen this weekend.

[Acer]

Anyone with an older unit have the tint issue? I just got mine.

[Coldtronius]

Anyone with an older unit have the tint issue? I just got mine.

I haave one of the first units shipped out of Newegg and I don't have that issue.

[Cycloptersaurus]

I was wondering if anybody had any suggestions on whether 6500k or 9300k, and what brightness/contrast settings people use (I use this primarily for gaming, though I do use it for web surfing, web design, and office stuff...but really optimal settings for PC games would be apreciated). I know people have probably already posted in this thread, but with this many pages, it's a bit much to sort through.

Thanks.

[dodoei]

Did anyone experience banding on this monitor? I saw minor banding for mine. also saw from other forums that vx2025 has minor banding. here is a testing program you can check. The banding on my monitor is mainly around the left, the darker gradients.

http://xtknight.atothosting.com/tools/gradlin-v0.2-fs.exe

[alpha0ne]

No banding whatsoever on my 2025wm :cool:

[animasaki]

I'm not seeing anything, but I have to say, that gradient test you posted sure brings out the 'sparkly' effect the anti-gloss covering gives.

Great monitor, on the whole. I just wish Viewsonic's support department was so good. :(

[Acer]

Has anyone with the reddish tint issue taken theirs back yet? Did you get a good one this time? Where did you purchase yours from? Mine was from pc connection.

[dodoei]

I had an exchange. The new one still has tint, little bit better... bought from OD

[that_aznpride101]

I must be one really sick man.... I read this entire thread about the Viewsonic VX2025wm (all 1374 posts). I've been itching to buy one after reading this thread for awhile, but I didn't go for the deal initially because I needed to save up the money wait and see if there was a special. And there was. I got it at newegg for $330 w/ free shipping during their weekend deal. :) For those who missed it, J&R (http://www.+++++++/JRProductPage.process?Product=4090201) has a good deal with a $50 rebate (http://www.+++++++/images/pdf/rebates/VIW8_20060729.pdf) which comes down to $299.00 but that's w/o shipping. But hurry, the rebate is only good until July 29th!! But yes, I will be getting one of these bad boys in a few days. I'm really hoping I don't get the tint problem or any dead pixels. =/

Here's something that annoyed me while I was reading this thread: users should use the Search function to find answers to their questions before posting any in this thread. Most likely, it's already been answered. About 20-25 posts were asking about the "backlighting" issue and another 20-25 were asking how to get the DVI to work w/ the monitor. That's very sad, people... Try searching for the answer instead of asking immediately. Stop being lazy and look for it yourself! :p

Oh, I just wanted to give props to Coldtronius for not only establishing this thread but also for staying on top of it even when it reached 1300+ posts. I'm very impressed by your dedication to answer people's questions. 2 eProps for you! :)

[Coldtronius]

Oh, I just wanted to give props from Coldtronius for not only establishing this thread but also for staying on top of it even when it reached 1600+ posts. I'm very impressed by your dedication to answer people's questions. 2 eProps for you! :)

Thanks bud, I appreciate it :cool:

[animasaki]

and another 20-25 were asking how to get the DVI to work w/ the monitor.

Sorry, man, but mine still hasn't gotten fixed, and Viewsonic's support is some of the worst around. I've had the problem for two and a half months now, gone through three RMA #, and even a repair. It's still broken, and during the repair they stole my back panel.

The DVI issue is a lot worse than you may think. You have a much higher chance of your DVI port failing than a dead pixel, trust me. You could try searching for my posts here in the Display section, and you'll see a lot of what I've been experiencing with Viewsonic. You should make sure to check out other threads here on this monitor, as they can give you a much better indication of how bad the DVI issue is (and how little VS is doing to fix it). They won't even give you a replacement VX2025wm anymore; you have to send it in for repairs, with shipping at your expense. After which, as I said, it gets shipped back to you unchanged and in my case, missing a back panel.

Honestly, after this, I'm not buying a VS monitor again. Their quality control and incompetent customer support has gotten absurd. If you're still set on buying it, I wish you luck. I certainly hope you never have to call customer support. :mad:

[Acer]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e323/acer282828/Picture003.jpg


Notice the red tint on the right. Would you guys return it?

[Tutelary]

return it.

[dodoei]

finally, i'm returning mine, the tint is really annoying

[t4t3r]

that's exactly what mine looked like Acer, i took it back the very next day.

After seeing these problems (DVI, screen issue, poor customer service) I can't say for sure that I will consider Viewsonic either for my next monitor. :(

[AlphexHunter]

the VX2025!!
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/5303/p7100085xw0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Finaly got the monitor and is BEAUTIFUL! Nothing bad about it exepte it should of came with a neo-flex in the box lolz! MUST BUY DONT IVEN THINKING ABOUT IT JUST BUY IT!

[blksun000]

Nice monitor, I'm thinking about switching to an LCD, but right now i'm using a viewsonic CRT. It's hard to find an LCD that can handle native resolutions above 1600x1200 cheap.

http://www.hardfolding.com/ftag1.php/mem/3002 (http://www.hardfolding.com?go=38&tm=33&id=3002)

[Citizen _insane]

I just bought one of these last week also and I'm loving it! Its so bright I had to turn it down or it'd hurt my eyes. The contrast and sharpness are amazing. I did notice the corner bleeding thing when I first fired it up with my computer off...but I haven't noticed it since, it's not a big deal. This is definatly one of the best upgrades I've gotten for my computer.

[that_aznpride101]

Whoa, you actually managed to fit the Logitech x-530 (i think) center speaker underneath the monitor?? I have the exact same speakers, but I didn't think there was enough clearance to fit it under there! That's pretty sweet. ;)

By the way Citizen, that's not backlight bleeding you're looking at. It's........ Never mind.

[Acer]

I mangaged to exchange mine with the red tint issue. But the new one is worse! It has really bad backlight bleading and three black dead pixels. Although it has no tint issue. I have both of them at my house now (waiting to ship one back) and I am trying to decide what to do. Is it that hard to get a good one?

heres another photo of the red tint.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e323/acer282828/Picture002.jpg

[BigwaveDave]

It's that hard with ALL lcd's in my experience. In the end a guy just has to pick the flaws he's willing to live with. It unfortunate, but that's the conclusion I've come to after having many different LCD's pass through my hands.

If you have good eyes...you'll never get one that's perfect.

[that_aznpride101]

I FINALLY GOT IT!!! ;)

When I first plugged this thing in, I couldn't believe how widescreen really expands my view of my desktop space! I was grinning when I was playing around with it earlier. Thanks to this thread, I spent $330 on a good investment. I didn't find any dead pixels using Dead Pixel Buddy *whew* but I do see a reddish tint on the right side when I viewed my new lcd with a white background. Personally, I don't think it's serious, it only becomes more obvious when I stare at it. But besides that, I'm one happy consumer. :)
Oh, when I first turned the thing on, I noticed it's freaking bright! Gonna have to fine tune the contrast, etc later but for now, it's time for me to download that Kristin Kreuk wallpaper I saw posted in this thread. :D


Thanks again, Coldtronius! I owe you my.....Um.... Gratitude. Yes. :D

By the way Acer, that isn't backlight bleeding you're looking at. Read the following.


MAJOR UPDATE:

After having this montior for a few days I discovered my intial finding of "backlight bleeding" incorrect.

Apprantly, due to the desighn of the panel, the corners have a slight "washed" out look when viewed from the center therebye giving the impression of backlight bleeding as indicated in the photo below

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/8505/bleeding8el.jpg

However, I found out when I centered my head to the left or the right of the monitor the "backlight" bleeding all but dissapeared.

Left side
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5622/leftanle9bh.jpg

Right side
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/615/rightangle3jf.jpg

In short, I have very few gripes about this montior. It arrived in perfect shape and has been doing excellent in almost all my games. Sure, the NEC would be nice but for half the price, I think I found my new monitor to last me until SED comes out full swing

[Backslash]

I just ordered one from buy.com this afternoon. :)

It should be coming sometime next week. Hopefully there will be no serious problems with mine.

[SonComet]

I FINALLY GOT IT!!! ;)

When I first plugged this thing in, I couldn't believe how widescreen really expands my view of my desktop space! I was grinning when I was playing around with it earlier. Thanks to this thread, I spent $330 on a good investment. I didn't find any dead pixels using Dead Pixel Buddy *whew* but I do see a reddish tint on the right side when I viewed my new lcd with a white background. Personally, I don't think it's serious, it only becomes more obvious when I stare at it. But besides that, I'm one happy consumer. :)
Oh, when I first turned the thing on, I noticed it's freaking bright! Gonna have to fine tune the contrast, etc later but for now, it's time for me to download that Kristin Kreuk wallpaper I saw posted in this thread. :D


Thanks again, Coldtronius! I owe you my.....Um.... Gratitude. Yes. :D

By the way Acer, that isn't backlight bleeding you're looking at. Read the following.
Still looks like backlight bleeding to me. Especially since off-axis viewing has the same problems on pva and s-pva monitors and I don't see any of that X-Pattern on my 2407wfp. The 215tw, equivalent gateway, and 1/4 204ts suffered from the same X-Pattern backlight bleed thouugh. I don't think hiding bleed using the monitor's viewing angles constitutes no backlight bleed.

[Milehigh]

Hey all, went to see this monitor at the Microcenter near me, and the sales guy tells me it has been replaced with the Viewsonic VA2012wb, though the specs seem to indicate it is not as high res, and has a 8ms response time. I thought the VX2025wm was around 4ms?

Has the VX2025wm been replaced? Is the VA2012wb comparable? Thanks for any input :)

[teaken]

Milehigh, the salesman is lying through his teeth, the VA2012wm is a fairly cheap and fairly rubbishy monitor compared to the VX2025wm. The VA and VX (and VP) viewsonic monitors all have similar models within the ranges however the VA are the budget series the VX the middle series and the VP the professional series.
I don't live in the US I've ordered the VX2025wm from the US now I have to wait 3 weeks for it to get here, heres hoping I don't have to return it.
Thanks to everyone who has posted useful information in the thread, it's been very informative.

[Milehigh]

I agree Teaken, after posting, I looked at Viewsonic's site and checked the spec sheets for both monitors, and the VX is a better monitor. I hate how salespeople do that, really pisses me off when they act like experts and don't really know sh*t. My girlfriend said it was funny how he acted, arguing with me when I said the VX was a better monitor... she said most sales people know the customer is always right.

I told her she hasn't spent enough time around computer, tv, or tech sales people... cause they always try to come off like experts and argue with people ;)

[DoomRulz]

Nice monitor, I'm thinking about switching to an LCD, but right now i'm using a viewsonic CRT. It's hard to find an LCD that can handle native resolutions above 1600x1200 cheap.

http://www.hardfolding.com/ftag1.php/mem/3002 (http://www.hardfolding.com?go=38&tm=33&id=3002)

Want some advice buddy? Don't go cheap. If you can't afford a good LCD, don't bother getting one...you get what you pay for. It's exactly buying a digital camera...you get what you pay for.

[Backslash]

My VX2025wm finally arrived! And my hopes have been fulfilled: no dead pixels, barely any backlight bleeding (except when viewed from an extreme angle), no red tint on the right side, etc. :D

In fact, the only problem with this monitor is that I have to run it off my laptop's VGA output at 1024x768 until I get my Conroe system built. That doesn't do this monitor justice.

I can't imagine how good it'll look through DVI, at 1680x1050.

[silentsnake09]

I have a single constant red pixel right smack in the middle of the screen. I just bought it Thursday at Office Depot, you guys think I will be able to exchange it ? I payed almost $400 I don't think I should have to look at a dead pixel/stuck pixel, once you notice them they stand out.

[Blue Falcon]

I have a single constant red pixel right smack in the middle of the screen. I just bought it Thursday at Office Depot, you guys think I will be able to exchange it ? I payed almost $400 I don't think I should have to look at a dead pixel/stuck pixel, once you notice them they stand out.


Try pressing against the area where the stuck pixel/subpixel is with a soft cloth? IF that doesn't unstick it try one of the 'stuck pixel fixer' programs. There's a siezure inducing flash file that wasn't intended for this, but it works wonders sometimes.

http://xyz-x.netfirms.com/rgb.swf

Aww crap, it isn't suited for widescreen but if your stuck pixel is near the center of the screen..... it might help. :p

[silentsnake09]

i already tryed all that for hours, think I should return ? is it even possible to return cause of 1 pixel ?

[Blue Falcon]

i already tryed all that for hours, think I should return ? is it even possible to return cause of 1 pixel ?

From office depot? Brick and mortar store or was it an online purchase?

You should have no problem returning it. Call them and ask, and if they do give you shit then take it in and tell them it powers off randomly or something and you want an exchange. Wrong? Possibly... but my opinion is no one should have to deal with dead pixels... policies be damned.

[silentsnake09]

I bought it from the bright and mortar physical walk in and interact with humans store. Its only been 3 days. I actually put a little scrath in the upper corer, far away from the dead pixel. My iSight fell into the screen, Its barley noticeable but if you get the right coloro ver it you can see it. So if I go in and tell them I got a dead pixel and it came scrathed they should give me a new one? Its only been 3 days, 4 if I do it tomorrow. They will hook the one I will get in the exchange up to a pc so I can look to see if its dead pixel free also correct?

[zimzoid]

had 1 of these LCD,s for a month now and am very happy with it,i have zero issues with it,i like it better than my vx922 2ms screen,with games like doom3,q4 etc,shiney surfaces seemed to glitter on the 922 but on this screen thats gone

[Acer]

I finally got a good one after my second exchange. No red tint!

[zimzoid]

I finally got a good one after my second exchange. No red tint!

good one man,glad you got lucky,was kinda happy mine was fine right from the start
;)

[deanx0r]

A question to all VX2025 owners: do you feel that the monitor is 'small'?

I replaced my L90D+ with the VX2025 and felt that I downgraded my estate. I got to play with a Gateway FDP2185W a while back, and even tho that monitor is only an inch bigger than the VX2025, it felt much bigger when sitting on your desktop.

Because of that, I am seriously considering upgrading this monitor.

[AlphexHunter]

Nah man the Viewsonic is big enought and if you want it bigger get 2 of them (and it will cost you the same as the dell 2407 or iven that gateway one and you will have 2x 20.1) :p

But if you really wanna see difference put it next to a dell 2407 or even the 3007 and there a big difference.

I think it's just a question of getthing usto..

[BigwaveDave]

It's definitely a little small. It's actually the same height as a 17" LCD, but a few inches wider.

[k0n]

awesome display. i just got it last night!

perfect size for my jerker desk (from ikea). i almost went with a 2407, but 4 inches for 400 bucks and possible banding issues, wasnt worth it for me.

i didnt like the limited adjustments of the stock stand, so i picked up the neoflex ergotron lcd arm. works beautifully!

only gripe about the ergotron, is that it was a major pain in the ass to adjust and tighten the joints with the hex key. but a lil ol' fashioned muscle took care of that.

vx2025wm + neoflex ergotron = awesomeness

[AlphexHunter]

hey dude can you please take a pic of your Viewsonic Vx2025 face to face with the camera I just wanna see how high the monitor stands with the neo flex, thankx

[k0n]

i sure will as soon as i get home tonight for ya. :D

[AlphexHunter]

Hey guy's I forgot how to put 2 black frames on eatch side of my VX2025 monitor (right and left ) .. Because I have a game that absolutly cannot play Widesreen ? How do you do that I saw a guy doing this on this thread but I can't find the page...

Thanks

[Blue Falcon]

Hey guy's I forgot how to put 2 black frames on eatch side of my VX2025 monitor (right and left ) .. Because I have a game that absolutly cannot play Widesreen ? How do you do that I saw a guy doing this on this thread but I can't find the page...

Thanks

Go into the nvidia display panel and look under flat panel settings. Choose display adaptor scaling (fixed aspect ratio).

[BronxBartoni]

Well after awhile of debating I finally decided to go with this monitor. Should arrive on thursday or friday, Ill let you guys know how it goes.

[Jordan1]

awesome display. i just got it last night!

perfect size for my jerker desk (from ikea). i almost went with a 2407, but 4 inches for 400 bucks and possible banding issues, wasnt worth it for me.

i didnt like the limited adjustments of the stock stand, so i picked up the neoflex ergotron lcd arm. works beautifully!

only gripe about the ergotron, is that it was a major pain in the ass to adjust and tighten the joints with the hex key. but a lil ol' fashioned muscle took care of that.

vx2025wm + neoflex ergotron = awesomeness

Dell's banding issues were fixed a while ago.

[insignificance]

I was able to get in on the J&R deal at the end of July ($330 shipped - $50 rebate). I received it last Wednesday, and I am very, very pleased with it....except for one thing.

About 50% of the time, some colors will have problems, especially bright colors.

Examples:

Yellow Gradient Test (http://www.mattcalderwood.com/images/IMG_0974.JPG)

Gray Gradient Test (http://www.mattcalderwood.com/images/IMG_0979.JPG)

When the odd colorization/lines appear, they shimmer or sparkle....kinda hard to describe.

The color red seems to exhibit the most problems, however I do not have a picture of that.

I have tried 2 different DVI cables, 1 VGA cable, and tried hooking the DVI up to a different computer. For one of these tests (hooking up to a diff cpu), it worked...for a couple hours.

The problem seems to come and go. I'm pretty sure the monitor has issues, and I will have to RMA or exchange it (now I wish I'd bought it at a brick & mortar store). I just want to check and see if someone can see something I'm doing wrong before I start the process of returning it.

Thanks!

[k0n]

Dell's banding issues were fixed a while ago.

for some.

[AlphexHunter]

Go into the nvidia display panel and look under flat panel settings. Choose display adaptor scaling (fixed aspect ratio).


I gives me "out of range" whenever I put it on... I am currently running my monitor on DVI... dunno do you know whats the probleme do I have to enable something ??

[LordBritish]

I gives me "out of range" whenever I put it on... I am currently running my monitor on DVI... dunno do you know whats the probleme do I have to enable something ??

The "out of range" issue is a known problem. There is currently no known fix that I'm aware of.

[Blue Falcon]

I gives me "out of range" whenever I put it on... I am currently running my monitor on DVI... dunno do you know whats the probleme do I have to enable something ??

Switch to the other DVI port on your card and it should work properly. (You MIGHT need to uninstall/reinstall the nvidia forceware drivers as well).

[Blue Falcon]

The "out of range" issue is a known problem. There is currently no known fix that I'm aware of.

On 7800 cards you can switch to the opposite DVI port to resolve this issue. According to his sig that's what he has...

On 7900 series cards there is no fix for this problem (yet). It seems to be a driver issue so hopefully nVidia will fix it soon.

[umcpgrad]

best monitor ever =]

[supastar1568]

best monitor ever =]

O RLY?

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f74/supastar1568/IMG_0119.jpg

:p

Just playing, im sure that monitor (edit:the viewsonic that is) is much more of a value for the money. :)

[AlphexHunter]

I dont like how those controls stick out from the scare shape of the monitor like that but other then that am sure its a good monitor too all Widescreens are nice :D

[supastar1568]

I dont like how those controls stick out from the scare shape of the monitor like that but other then that am sure its a good monitor too all Widescreens are nice :D

Because there is suppose to be a speaker bar that goes around the buttons and lies flush with the bottom of the monitor

[BronxBartoni]

Well it came today, I love it but Im getting HORRIBLE tearing in CSS, I guess VSYNC would be the only way to fix this? Sorry if its a noob question, im new to the whole LCD scene.

[burned-ati]

tearing occurs on anykind of monitor. unless your FPS is under your refresh rate. and even in the case i still get tearing. :o

[herbalicous]

I am wondering does anyone else have this problem or know how I can fix it? In my power settings I have the monitor set to sleep after so much inactivity but when it shuts of it will just keep coming back on any saying "no signal" then shut off again repeating this over and over. Anyone know whats going on?

[burned-ati]

No, ive got mine set to sleep after 3mins idle. and it comes up fine every time.

[hartman]

Damn you guys, I'm more bothered by the ghosting on my 2025 now just because I'm more aware of this kind of stuff. :D

[herbalicous]

I see viewsonic pulled the monitor from their site now. Wonder what is going on with these. Newegg didn't want to take mine back but told me to talk to viewsonic, yet they don't even have these in stock anymore. I am going to try and get the egg to refund me somehow because I do not want to deal with viewsonic from what I have heard. I tried getting another one at office max but it had worse backlight bleed than the one I have now. I dunno what I am gonna do maybe try the dell 2007.

[burned-ati]

The VX2025wm is the best 20" wide to have IMO.. ive seen some others.. but this one is just great! i guess youre just having some bad luck. i dont have any back light bleeding. and for ghosting. i can never see it. unless i look for it. as in it never catches my eye. so i guess i can say i have no ghosting. i love to smoke and play games on this monitor. that just makes my day! :D

[herbalicous]

I have also never seen any ghosting on this monitor but it has the other problems I mentioned maybe I should try getting another one somewhere else and see if I get one without backlight bleed and one that will go into sleep mode. Office Max only had the one I bought so I couldn't exchange for another but there is a staples around that might have one. I can live with the backlight but the damn thing needs to go into sleep mode.

[Icetron]

I see viewsonic pulled the monitor from their site now. Wonder what is going on with these. Newegg didn't want to take mine back but told me to talk to viewsonic, yet they don't even have these in stock anymore. I am going to try and get the egg to refund me somehow because I do not want to deal with viewsonic from what I have heard. I tried getting another one at office max but it had worse backlight bleed than the one I have now. I dunno what I am gonna do maybe try the dell 2007.

No they didn't

http://viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/xseries/vx2025wm/

You can't return most LCD monitors back to Newegg without first contacting the manufactuer. It was the same when I tried a VX922. I had to call Viewsonic, plead my case, get a case # and then return it to Newegg.

Get your facts straight and stop being a troll
:rolleyes:

[herbalicous]

Hey buddy I did call viewsonic first fyi. And the vx2025wm was pulled from their site now it is back on there. Don't get upset because all these screens aren't perfect. Get used to hearing about problems because most people aren't going to post unless there is something wrong. I never would have made one post about mine if it was all good. I don't live on a message board. I have had 2 of these and have seen others that friends own and they all have the same backlight bleed problems. Viewsonic says that next week they are getting a new shippment of these in finally. Hopefully some of the issues are worked out. Thanks for the laugh though I gotta get back to work.

[herbalicous]

I thought I would mention that the viewsonic support so far in my experience has been pretty good. Other than being on hold forever the people there are nice and helpful. They are sending me out a new monitor when the new ones come in and then when I get it I just send mine back. They do put a hold for the value of the monitor on your credit card until they get your old one back but I am fine with that. So I guess I shouldn't have listened to what everyone has been saying about their support.

[dR.Jester]

Well guess what fellow VX2025wm owners. As of Tuesday, my DVI input no longer works!!! The resolution got all goofy on me and then I shut my computer off. Since then it has failed to work with any DVI cable I have tried. Guess its time for an RMA. :(

Oh btw, using D-SUB right now and everything is working great. No idea why the DVI fails to work...

[LordBritish]

Well guess what fellow VX2025wm owners. As of Tuesday, my DVI input no longer works!!! The resolution got all goofy on me and then I shut my computer off. Since then it has failed to work with any DVI cable I have tried. Guess its time for an RMA. :(

Oh btw, using D-SUB right now and everything is working great. No idea why the DVI fails to work...

You need the "DVI Recover" tool. It fixed my dead DVI port.

[umcpgrad]

HEY SAME HERE!! whats this DVI Recover tool?

[Blue Falcon]

http://www.geocities.com/jgeneedid/

[Blue Falcon]

You guys sure make me nervous as hell, I just wanted to add that.

Why?

I've had my VX2025WM for almost 2 months now and have had no complaints whatsoever, it's just beautiful. And while I have helped a few others with the dreaded DVI problem I have not experienced it at all with my unit, and I am always swapping inputs and connections and stuff.

*knocks on wood* I hope mine doesn't catch this disease from you guys...

We need to start comparing revision numbers and serial numbers and see if we can nail this down to a specific revision of the monitor.

[umcpgrad]

seriously

I HAVE TWO OF THAT MONITOR

I RETURNED ONE TO compusa

and my other one is acting up too.. wtf..

[herbalicous]

When I get my new one from viewsonic I will post up my serial numbers from both my old and new one. Maybe we can figure out if there is some revision or something. I am thinking I will get one of the newest ones since it will be right from the new shippment to viewsonic. I dunno I think this is a great monitor if you get one with no issues though I wish I didn't have the problems obviously. I plan on wall mounting mine on an arm as I am in the process of building a new computer room right now. Should be a sweet setup.

[Candymancan]

Sorry for buddingin but i have the vx922, these pictures im looking @ these pics with the backlighting issues, and my moniter doesnt have the corner's lit up like youre guys's monitor's but my top looks like this this picture the middle and top of his screen it doesnt go as far down but it looks like that. I can see it @ all angels and the screen up there is really hot.

Is this normal ?

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5622/leftanle9bh.jpg

[DrDoug]

Sorry to hear of the troubles some seem to be having with this display (VX2025wm). I bought ours in late March, and it has been one of the best monitors I have ever purchased. No DVI issues, have been able to configure most games for it and they play great, no dead or stuck pixels, the colors are vivid and the anti-glare coating is not intrusive.

This thread was instrumental in my making the decision to buy this, and Coldtronius has my appreciation for starting this very informative thread. I consider the purchase of the display to be money well spent. Now if I could just get my wife off the computer it is attached to. Since installing it, she has been glued to the system...lol

I went from a Sony CPD-G500 21" CRT (@1600x1200) to this, and it was worth losing a bit of height (150 pix) to gain the width. Nothing beats side by side apps and widescreen gaming! My system is a bit old (P4P800E Deluxe, P4-2.8E/800 HT-CPU, 256 Mb Ati 9800XT (a real one, not the chinese knock offs), or I would have gone for a 24" screen. This one fits my system perfectly, IMO.

I have the Sony as a secondary monitor, but I have yet to use it since getting this...

[Bruce]

Does anyone know if the 7900GT scaling issues have been fixed yet?

Or if the scaling works with an X1800XT?

My 6600GT is starting to show its age, but I don't want to upgrade to something that won't be able to scale 4:3 resolutions properly.

[dR.Jester]

In response to my previous post about the DVI input going tits up on my VX2025wm. That is now not the case. I just tested the LCD on a separate computer running a 7800GT with a single link DVI (the one supplied with the VX2025wm) and I was able to get an image. Currently using D-SUB still on my computer. Ive got a 7900GTX and Im using the DVI adapter EVGA supplied. Haven't tried a straight-up DVI cable yet to see. Its pretty odd whats going on. Before I tested the LCD on a different machine. On mine I was getting no signal with the dual-link DVI. That was the cable I was using when the problems first began. Testing with the single link, still no signal from the video card. Still trying to find the root cause here. :o

[qtip]

great review. just ordered one from newegg for $309. should be here before thursday. woo hoo. (please no dead pixels)

[elvn]

I run dual mode monitors FW900 CRT + Viewsonic 2025wm LCD. I believe that after the last time I disconnected my pc case from everything to add new hardware I probably put the monitors back on the opposite DVI ports than the one they had been on. From that point forward, the viewsonic would not display on the dvi port.

I fixed it the same way Jester and others did. I unplugged the LCD and moved it over to a different computer. It came on right away. For some reason this seems to "clear" the input and it works fine on the original computer now.

[FiZ]

I just purchased one from Newegg, will post back with impressions when it gets here (Weds. hopefully :D ).

[Michael.R]

Well I just got my monitor yestarday and set it up. I am having trouble with the colours at the moment trying to achieve what I had on my Fe991sb.

But I got one big problem that I am currently looking for a fix and wondering if anyone has had the same problem. Sometimes, not constently I will get these scanline type things on the monitor. They will only be in a little area at a time about 3cm by 1cm. Its always there when I log onto windows over my display icon. I also notice it on gamspot all the time, and other times it will just appear. I really have no idea what it is. I tried a newer driver and that didnt do anything. It doesnt appear on my CRT so I am positive it has something to do with the monitor. I have it plugged into DVI right now. I will try changing around the connections and report back.

This is my first LCD monitor, but im sure once I have got the colours and fixed my little problem I will be happy with it.

[I3eyond]

Out of the box the colors and brightness looked fine to me. I came from a 17" CRT (15.5 viewable)

[umcpgrad]

yeah you gotta play around with the color temp... great monitor.. =)..

[Michael.R]

Well I seemed to have fixed my scanline/pixel flickering type problem. First I tried forcing some new refresh rates in the Nvidia control panel but that didnt help because I couldnt get past 60. To be honest I didnt expect it to go past 60 but it was worth a try. Second I switched from Digital to Analog and the problem disappeared. Although I wasnt happy running my brand new monitor with Analog even if it meant I could run at 75 hertz instead of 60. In the end all I had to do was switch the DVI connector over to the other connection on the 6800 ultra and the problem went away. Kinda silly if you ask me because the convertor I used to convert the Digital to Analog (supplied with the videocard) I plugged into the same port as the one that was having the problems, if that makes any sense at all. I dont understand why I would not have still had the problems on the Analog connection.

I am planning on buying a second vx2025wm for dual screen because running this monitor along with my FE991sb isnt the best looking thing to have on your desk.

Overall im happy with the purchase though, the biggest problem is I am not confident my colours are correct. On the FE991sb my steam tabs (store, my games, my media and tools) are more green but on vx2025wm it is grey. Just wondering what colour it is on someone elses monitor if they can check for me. Also with gamespot the background is more greyish on my vx2025wm but on my FE991sb its more greenish. I ran the WiziWYG and wasnt too happy with the results. Anyways I would appreciate it if someone could tell me what colours they are getting in Steam and Gamespot so that I can check it out with mine.

Edit: Forgot to mention I have no dead pixels.

[bruins004]

Hey all,
Just to let you all know I ordered mine from the egg about a month ago and I have still yet to see a picture on it.
My first unit didnt get a picture with either DVI or Analog (tried on 3 computers with 3 different DVI cables).
So I called them up and I gotta say that the support (besides waiting on line) was pleasant. Not as good as Antecs bc they have the best lol.
So I just got the monitor back (they swapped it for another one) and guess what....The same problem....
Do they even check if they are sending me a good monitor or just throw one in a box and ship it?
So I called back up and told the support guy what was wrong....I was put on hold for another 5 min. and they said they would send me a new one.
So I am hoping that this one will work (third time is a charm right lol).
I currently have a Dell with a built in Intel GPU (crap machine) and a 7800GT and a X800.
None of them work so obv. it aint a Nvidia issue.
Any fixes to this or just dont even bother and send it back right away?
Thanks all.

[j3ffry]

Well I also got a prob in my VX2025...

Everytime I switched from example frozen throne game to a window let's say an excel file, the monitor just turns off and on and it will be like that forever... and I have to restart my PC to have it to normal.. after a while it will be like that again..

I tried it by using a DVI and VGA cable.. it never occur whenever i'm using a vga cable.. but I can tell you that I can't live using the VGA cable because the picture isn't nice..

can someone help me to isolate the prob? can it be really my LCD or just my videocard?

here's my spec:

Intel 2.8 lga775
Inno3d 6600
1gig of ram.


thanks and more power!

[supastar1568]

sounds like a problem with the monitor/DVI cable

[U HAX0R]

Just bought it because of this thread and a 160$ rebates at Bestbuy.ca (http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10072654&catid=22559&logon=&langid=EN). :D

130$ rebate and minus 30$ with a coupon = 339$ CAD or 301$ USD.
Total (with stupid ~15% taxes) came in to 387$ CAD or 344$ USD, how's that deal ?

I chose the in store pickup so I should get the confirmation email soon and will be able to go pick it up right after work. :D

[xappie]

Just bought it because of this thread and a 160$ rebates at Bestbuy.ca (http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10072654&catid=22559&logon=&langid=EN). :D

130$ rebate and minus 30$ with a coupon = 339$ CAD or 301$ USD.
Total (with stupid ~15% taxes) came in to 387$ CAD or 344$ USD, how's that deal ?

I chose the in store pickup so I should get the confirmation email soon and will be able to go pick it up right after work. :D

Where'd you find the coupon?????

[U HAX0R]

Where'd you find the coupon?????

Red Flag Deals (http://www.redflagdeals.com/deals/main.php/electronics/#e22278)

[umcpgrad]

this monitor is so worth it.. except for that little glitech.. with the dvi problem...

[U HAX0R]

Just came back from BestBuy with it ...

DAMN IT OWNS!!!!!!!!! It's so big! :eek: :D

Seriously, picture quality is just awesome. HL2 look so good. :D

I'll take it over my dual 17" CRTs anyday.

[teaken]

I finally got my VX2025wm and now I'm not so sure about it. The size is great the widescreen aspect is great. But the anti-glare coating is really bugging me as is the blacklevel.
Anyone that has had one for a decent time tell me did you get used to the anti-glare coating being sparkley?
I also had to do some major color adjustments to get a decent picture but i was expecting that.

[Michael.R]

I finally got my VX2025wm and now I'm not so sure about it. The size is great the widescreen aspect is great. But the anti-glare coating is really bugging me as is the blacklevel.
Anyone that has had one for a decent time tell me did you get used to the anti-glare coating being sparkley?
I also had to do some major color adjustments to get a decent picture but i was expecting that.

What are your settings at, I have been messing around with mine for a couple days now and I am still not completely happy with the colour I am at right now.

[teaken]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9478/adobegammaeo5.png

This is my current adobe camma color settings. But I'm changing them all the time to try and find something I'm happy with. The main issue seems to be the red level, it's always lower that the blue or green. I think I went to far with the red that time I'm going to put it back up a bit soon.

[Backslash]

I finally got my VX2025wm and now I'm not so sure about it. The size is great the widescreen aspect is great. But the anti-glare coating is really bugging me as is the blacklevel.
Anyone that has had one for a decent time tell me did you get used to the anti-glare coating being sparkley?
I also had to do some major color adjustments to get a decent picture but i was expecting that.

I was bothered by the antiglare coating when I first took the monitor out of the box too, but I got used to it within a week. I can't see the coating unless I look for it now.

My current color settings are Red: 100 Green: 96 Blue: 94 Contrast: 60 Brightness: 40 on a 7600 GT. This most likely isn't perfect, but I'm completely satisfied with the image right now.

[KevC]

Just bought it because of this thread and a 160$ rebates at Bestbuy.ca (http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10072654&catid=22559&logon=&langid=EN). :D

130$ rebate and minus 30$ with a coupon = 339$ CAD or 301$ USD.
Total (with stupid ~15% taxes) came in to 387$ CAD or 344$ USD, how's that deal ?

I chose the in store pickup so I should get the confirmation email soon and will be able to go pick it up right after work. :D

I'm buying that. Time to replace bloody 7 year old CRT hahaha. Did it come with a DVI cable?

[U HAX0R]

I'm buying that. Time to replace bloody 7 year old CRT hahaha. Did it come with a DVI cable?

Haha, you'll love it coming from a 7 years old CRT for sure.

Yup. DVI / VGA / Power cables.

[Naaaaak]

My settings: 100 contrast, 100 brightness, 71 R / G / B, default color profile in software.

[k0n]

bought 2 of these guys. 1 of them had a flickering issue. even when not connected to the video card at all, just power!

RMA with newegg was a hassle this time (surprisingly).

Took them a week to process, RMA for Replacement was turned into an RMA for Refund without my knowledge because they were out of stock when they received the lcd. so i was told to basically order it all over again with free upgraded overnight shipping.

which really doesnt make a difference to me, as i live very close to their warehouse.
kinda sucks newegg, i did an rma for a heatsink, that took 1 day!

[Backslash]

Scaling DOES NOT work with my 7600 GT. Using the second DVI port, if I select any option other than monitor scaling, I get an "Out of Range" message. Using the first DVI port, I can select centered output, but if I change the resolution to anything other than 1680x1050, I'll get an "Out of Range" message. This is a Gigabyte Silent-Pipe II 7600 GT.

This sucks, is there anything I can do?

[FiZ]

I just got mine from Newegg, loving it so far. My only issue is there appears to be a very small hair between the anti-glare coating and the actual screen. This is on the left side of the monitor, about an inch from the edge in the center (about a mm in size). I am wary of RMA'ing it to the egg because my monitor appears to have no backlighting issues and no dead pixels. It also appears I will have to either lie and say mine has 8 dead pixels or more, or go through the manufacturer. They changed their RMA policy on large LCD's it appears.

I am tempted to just call them up and get an RMA number instead of going through the automated process, which won't even let me get one - just points me to the manufacturer.

[themulf]

what about this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001081

Im currently using the 2025, and I really enjoy it. Using it with my 7900GT (XTX), but I cant figure out how to get standard ratio games to not strech.

[Pretzel]

$299 at outpost.com using the $50 mail-in rebate (no other purchase required)

http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4764799?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

[elvn]

I use dual monitors. One is a crt, one is the 2025wm lcd. I rebuilt my pc into a different case last night, so I had to unplug everything. When I plugged everything back in, the viewsonic 2025wm had 'no signal' again. It kept no signal no matter which dvi port I put it in, even when I removed the crt monitor from the video card altogether, and after several shutdowns and reboots.
It did this the last time I disconnected both monitors, but that time I had forgotten which port had which monitor and so I thought plugging them into the wrong ports must have done it for some reason. This time I am pretty sure that I plugged them back into the same dvi ports that they were in before I disconnected them. At one point I wondered if the higher resolution and refresh rate that the crt was set to was being fed to the lcd monitor when I reconnected it - causing no signal since it would be out of range, but I doubt that since the low resoluton bios/post screens don't show up while the computer boots.

It is fixable but it is annoying to have to disconnect the entire monitor and bring it over to another pc's desk, shut-down that pc, disconnect that pc's monitor and plug the viewsonic lcd into it, wait for reboot, then it shut down and go through all the steps to get both pcs set back up with their respective displays. It also risks scratching or otherwise damaging the monitor every time I have to move it.

My new case is a portable case that I bought so that I could bring my pc with me. If the viewsonic is going to get stuck in 'no signal' mode every time I disconnect it from my main desk's dual monitors I might have to get rid of it. The worst part about it is that it will not clear itself on the same computer/video card. I have to bring it to a different computer/video card for it to initialize again. Maybe there should be a 'clear' button on the monitor itself.

I didn't drag it to my other pc since it happened last night, so when I get home I'll try unplugging the power for a few minutes to see if that will clear it. Turning it off via the power button, swapping ports, rebooting, etc. definitely does not clear it. I'll also try plugging the crt in so that I can change the resolution to 1680 x 1050 @ 60Hz and remove the crt from the device manager, shutdown, swap monitors and boot up to see if I can get out of 'no signal' prison that way.

:mad:

[U HAX0R]

Im currently using the 2025, and I really enjoy it. Using it with my 7900GT (XTX), but I cant figure out how to get standard ratio games to not strech.

Play with those (http://img.uhax0r.com/scaling01.jpg) settings. I think you want the "centered output" or "fixed aspect ratio".

[Blue Falcon]

Play with those (http://img.uhax0r.com/scaling01.jpg) settings. I think you want the "centered output" or "fixed aspect ratio".

Those won't work yet with the VX2025WM and the 7900 series cards. We're waiting on a driver fix from nvidia.

[FiZ]

Well shit. Not only does my monitor have a hair stuck between the anti-glare and the monitor itself, but when I initially turn on my monitor (at bootup) it has severe problems displaying any color that is grey. It seems to go away but it takes longer to go away after every cool down period (overnight for example). I am on the phone with the egg right now getting a RMA number, I just hope my next one doesn't have any problems :( .

[Bruce]

Scaling DOES NOT work with my 7600 GT. Using the second DVI port, if I select any option other than monitor scaling, I get an "Out of Range" message. Using the first DVI port, I can select centered output, but if I change the resolution to anything other than 1680x1050, I'll get an "Out of Range" message. This is a Gigabyte Silent-Pipe II 7600 GT.

This sucks, is there anything I can do?

Those won't work yet with the VX2025WM and the 7900 series cards. We're waiting on a driver fix from nvidia.

And this is why I'm still using my 6600GT...

Any word on scaling with X1800 or X1900 cards? I'm in need of an upgrade. :(

[elvn]

Update about the recurrence of the 'no signal' on reconnecting the monitor. I'm not sure which did but I did the following:

- Shut down pc, turned off and disconnected the viewsonic LCD, and unplugged the LCD's power cord for awhile.

- I plugged in my CRT by itself, booted the pc and turned the rez to 1600 x 1024 @ 60HZ

- Shut down the pc, removed the crt's cable from the pc, plugged the viewsonic back into the other dvi port, rebooted the pc.

The LCD then worked. I don't know if unplugging its power for awhile did it or setting the CRT's resolution and refresh within the LCD's did. If it happens again when I start toting my portable pc case with me places, I'll test the power alone first.

Kindof annoying but at least I now know that I don't have to plug the monitor into a different pc to get it to work if it gets stuck in "no signal" mode again.

[sdk]

So today my friend brought his computer over for me to work on it. My PC was not doing anything important so I shut it down and hooked up my 2025WM via DVI up to his 9250 (which has DVI and VGA) and it didn't work. Tried VGA and that didn't work. I forgot he had it on onboard video so thats why it wasnt working. So I take it down to my old 19'' VGA LCD and after changes in the BIOS the 9250 is working fine in VGA so I did what I needed to do.

I came back to my computer and tried to hookup the 2025WM back to my x1900XT via DVI. No dice, tried the other DVI port and nothing. Tried VGA with adapter and that worked fine. I called viewsonic and she put me through hoops doing these strang things of pluggin in my VGA then removing it quickly and hoping it would switch to DVI, anyways after 1hr of trouble shooting with this woman it did not work so shes sending me a new DVI cable. I did some reading and I remembered that this is a common problem so I took it back to my store (after 30 days but the guy was nice as he has this LCD and knew of the problem) and he gave me a new LCD and found that he problem was with the DVI port on the LCD not the DVI cable. Long story short I have no idea what happened but I am another victom of the dying DVI.

This does have an upside, the new LCD I got has no black light bleeding whatsoever and like my other LCD has no dead pixels. So neededless to say for 3 hours of agrivation I got a LCD with no backlight bleeding. Worth it? Yes. ;) and I have a free DVI cable comming.

[Blue Falcon]

And this is why I'm still using my 6600GT...

Any word on scaling with X1800 or X1900 cards? I'm in need of an upgrade. :(

So far I'm hearing nothing but good things concerning the VX2025WM and the scaling options with ATI cards. I've even considered switching to an X1900XT myself... although I hate the Catalyst Control Center with a fucking PASSION.

ATI immediately lost a customer in me when they started with the CCC crap.

[umcpgrad]

just curious
but how much did everyone paid for their 2025?
I am thinking about getting another..

[insignificance]

I paid $280 for mine after rebate and including shipping. Got it from J&R at the end of last month.

[Skelaton4]

i paid 274 shipped, but mine was open box from newegg. Came as brand new :D

[Bruce]

$375 shipped from Buy.com on April 24th.

Then the price dropped like a rock. :(

[umcpgrad]

I got it for $280 after with 75 gift cards from amazon.com about 5 months ago? :)

[kidstechno]

$350 from ZZF.

[DrDoug]

Well, I have to RMA my VX2025wm. It developed what looks like two faint side by side columns about an inch and a quarter wide (total) that are just to the left of center screen, that run from the top to the bottom of the screen. At first they were very faint, but now when you open up a window over them sharp horizontal lines (the width of the two vertical columns) appear, and if you drag the window the lines scatter across the screen. It only happens on the DVI port, analog is fine.

I called Viewsonic and they had me test it on the analog port. When I told them that it did not show the problem there, they issued an RMA for it. I am using their 'Advanced Replacement' option so I will get my replacement first and then pack up the old one and send it back. All in all, it was handled quickly and I am happy to see that getting the RMA was a breeze (as opposed to a nightmare as some have said here).

I am not happy to see it crap out, but at least Viewsonic has handled the RMA process very well, IMO. Too bad I have to pay for return shipping of the defective unit, Dell has a better policy (at least for their laptops) and pays both ways.

[umcpgrad]

a friend of a friend

came over to my house yesterday
and wondering how much I would sell this monitor for

I am thinking about upgrading to a 24''

I don't even know him though

what is a fair price to sell this to him? :confused:

[Cereal Killer]

I would say $250 would be a good price.

[Code of Honor]

I’m planning to use this display in an all-in-one custom. How easy is it to take apart? Specifically the stand.

Thanks

CoH

[wassa]

hm..maybe i should get one..

[lala81]

Hello i need some help here.
Upgraded from at 17 inch 2 yr old Philips CRT

Syst specs: p4 2.4C, 6600GT.

First i bought the 2025WM on Thurs. It was originally my 3rd choice but i got it anyway.

1st, i had trouble setting it up cos
1. Forceware drivers 9x.xx dun seem to work! The last version that worked was the 84.xx driver.
After u install the driver, i need to first set the reso at 1680x1050 before reboot otherwise the 2025wm cant boot into windows. No mention of this problem with other users i mite add prior to this.
2. Then the DVI recover thing happened, and i only got it up and running yesterday after doing q a bit of reading of this thread.
3. Now the biggest problem is that
Although the 66GT is not supposed to have problems with the fixed aspect ratio, mine gives the OUT OF RANGE problem. Cant use the 9x.xx Forceware drivers
I play mostly DOTA on Warcraft 3 and occasionally the change betw resolutions cause the LCD to go into "on-off spasm" where it cant display the resolution. It happens when i alt-tab out of WC3, it happens when i load wc3. the occurence i think is truly random.

This is irritating to no end. Its fixed by using a 2nd analog connection and switching off the monitor. But its bldy p*ssing me off as it happens dam often
It even happens if i leave my monitor on powersaving mode shutdown (but only once)
Anyone has any solution?

I've seen this posted on widescreengaming forum before also to no avail.

I mite consider selling this monitor if this keeps going on.

[FiZ]

Well, I have to RMA my VX2025wm. It developed what looks like two faint side by side columns about an inch and a quarter wide (total) that are just to the left of center screen, that run from the top to the bottom of the screen. At first they were very faint, but now when you open up a window over them sharp horizontal lines (the width of the two vertical columns) appear, and if you drag the window the lines scatter across the screen. It only happens on the DVI port, analog is fine.

I called Viewsonic and they had me test it on the analog port. When I told them that it did not show the problem there, they issued an RMA for it. I am using their 'Advanced Replacement' option so I will get my replacement first and then pack up the old one and send it back. All in all, it was handled quickly and I am happy to see that getting the RMA was a breeze (as opposed to a nightmare as some have said here).

I am not happy to see it crap out, but at least Viewsonic has handled the RMA process very well, IMO. Too bad I have to pay for return shipping of the defective unit, Dell has a better policy (at least for their laptops) and pays both ways.
You are aware that Viewsonic sends refurbished monitors for replacements? I found that out when I wanted to RMA mine so I went straight through the retailer and raised a stink to get a new model. I will be damned if I throw out 300 bucks for a refurbished model. The new one I received is flawless though.

[AlphexHunter]

I have a question does anybody here have the vx2025 installed on there desk with the
Ergotron Neo-Flex Desk Mount Arm I would really like to know if you like it and is it really useful for saving room on your desk thanks

[DougWD]

Coldtronius, for your own sake, never use the term "badboy" to describe anything.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Backslash]

Updated drivers from 84.21 to 91.47. I'm now able to select centered output and fixed aspect ratio scaling without an out of range message. However, selecting a different resolution under these modes still results in a scaled screen.

Oh well, at least there's some progress. :(

[LostHere]

Updated drivers from 84.21 to 91.47. I'm now able to select centered output and fixed aspect ratio scaling without an out of range message. However, selecting a different resolution under these modes still results in a scaled screen.

Oh well, at least there's some progress. :(

Thanks for the info. I was wondering whether I should update to 91.47 to see if the the scaling is fixed or not. It doesn't sound like much progress since modified driver did the same with previous version :(

[Blue Falcon]

Same deal with the 91.48 drivers...


You know I was thinking, Vista will probably make this scaling issue moot. Adaptor scaling should be a breeze when done in the Aero UI.

[Backslash]

HOLY CRAP! I just got centered output to work correctly. I'm typing this at 1440x900, with black bars surounding the image. ;)

What I did was create a custom resolution (1440x900) in Powerstrip, select centered output in the Nvidia control panel, and then change the resolution to 1440x900. The default resolution settings that I'm able to select without creating a custom resolution (e.g. 1280x1024) still scales though.

This is very strange.

[gladiamos]

Hello everibody
Sorry for my English.
I've just 1 question about the scaling.
We know all that scalling probleme to 4/3 and 5/4 resolutions occured with 7900GT, but i want to know if it is alll the 79XX series because i'm thinking about buying a 7950GX2 or a 1950xtx to change my problematic 7900GT card.

Thanks for reply.