Long Live Dreamcast [Archive]

kohan69

02-17-2006, 07:38 PM

Hello, I'd like to spark some conversations about dreamcast.

Here's it's history:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9214419766443021135&q=dreamcast

First off, it's not dead.
http://www.gamebrink.com/?news=150

There's a game coming out for it next month.

And there's a huge amount of dreamcast homebrew (http://www.dchomebrew.org/) releases.

It could also be easily argued that Xbox360 is really Dreamcast3

discuss!

TranquilRed

02-17-2006, 07:44 PM

It could also be easily argued that Xbox360 is really Dreamcast3
Do explain this bit, please.

Domingo

02-17-2006, 07:47 PM

People have really taken that whole Dreamcast = Xbox360 thing way too far.
It's become worse than those "9/11 Pentagon attacks were missile strikes!" theorists.

kohan69

02-17-2006, 07:55 PM

People have really taken that whole Dreamcast = Xbox360 thing way too far.
It's become worse than those "9/11 Pentagon attacks were missile strikes!" theorists.

I would deffinetly disagree. There'd be no xbox without Dreamcast. that's a fact.

http://www.dreamcast-scene.com/uploads/Main/l_xdcx_cntrl.p.p.jpg
(from http://www.dreamcast-scene.com/ )

Article on 1up (http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3145154&did=1)

M4rk

02-17-2006, 08:01 PM

I would deffinetly disagree. There'd be no xbox without Dreamcast. that's a fact.

(from http://www.dreamcast-scene.com/ )

Article on 1up (http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3145154&did=1)
That article was enlightening. Good post!

paranoia4422

02-17-2006, 08:12 PM

make sure you click next to see why 360 will suceed where dreamcast failed

rcf1987

02-17-2006, 09:22 PM

The 360 is no dreamcast just wait and see I think Sony is in for a big surprize this time around and the market will probably be split more evenly between the next gen consoles. Now if only nintendo could hit the sweet spot then it would be awesome.

Hulk

02-17-2006, 10:20 PM

Yeah I cant believe that the dreamcast failed, it was all about bad timing. For me, I always liked sega systems better than nintendo systems. I cannot believe that the dreamcast was a dud while the N64 went on to succeed. I think this was mainly due to the fact that a lot of little kids got the n64 for christmas.

Tetrahedron

02-17-2006, 10:29 PM

DC is the best console ever released, just because it failed in terms of sales doesnt make it bad... think about it... NSYNC sold alot of albums, more than TooL or something, does that make NSYNC better than TooL... Hell No!

sales doesnt equate greatest one bit. If the DC wouldnt have been a victim to the SONY BS, it would have had a much longer life and many more games.

Slartibartfast

02-17-2006, 10:29 PM

Dreamcast is the best system ever. It still gets way more play time than my PS2. Eat me, sony!

ScreamingBroccoli

02-17-2006, 10:32 PM

Another vote for the Dreamcast was the best system ever!

synergyo1

02-17-2006, 10:48 PM

I love my Dreamcast. One of the most enjoyable consoles I have ever bought (behind SNES).

Naldo

02-17-2006, 10:54 PM

DC is the best console ever released, just because it failed in terms of sales doesnt make it bad... think about it... NSYNC sold alot of albums, more than TooL or something, does that make NSYNC better than TooL... Hell No!

I think Nsync is better than tool.

As for the dreamcast, back in the day I used to be a hardcore dreamcast !!!!!!. Great system, awesome games. We need some next gen power-stone, skies of arcadia, crazy taxi, and most definatly SHENMUE, I would kill for shenmue 3 (I'm serious sega, just give me a name and a plane ticket and its done).

Erasmus354

02-18-2006, 01:07 AM

I think Nsync is better than tool.

As for the dreamcast, back in the day I used to be a hardcore dreamcast !!!!!!. Great system, awesome games. We need some next gen power-stone, skies of arcadia, crazy taxi, and most definatly SHENMUE, I would kill for shenmue 3 (I'm serious sega, just give me a name and a plane ticket and its done).

yes, yes, yes and yes!

I love my dreamcast. I remember looking all over for a copy of Soul Calibur around the time the DC flopped. I ended up having to pay 30$ to get it used...a 3 year old title cost me 30$. A testament to the quality of that game, and it is one of many on the dreamcast.

Also...XBLA needs to get a Sega Swirl!

zero002021

02-18-2006, 01:27 AM

Another vote for Dreamcast was the best system ever!

Also...XBLA needs to get a Sega Swirl!

I concur.

demingo

02-18-2006, 02:28 AM

still loving my dreamcast

kohan69

02-18-2006, 02:31 AM

SHENMUE, I would kill for shenmue 3

A life is spared (http://games.kikizo.com/news/200508/141_p1.asp)

CHAoS_NiNJA

02-18-2006, 05:52 AM

Another vote for the DC. Easily one of the best consoles ever put out. I pray that I live to see the day that SEGA puts out another console.

Long live the Dreamcast!!!

K600

02-18-2006, 07:45 AM

Shenmue 3 is actually in the works...*EDIT Beaten to the punch.

Maybe this time they'll not ruin the NTSC version with ridiculous dubbing. I played through the Japanese version and it was infinitely better.

The Dreamcast was far ahead of its time, and it actually sold far better than I initially thought it would. Awesome power and great software to back it up.

B. W.

02-18-2006, 09:03 AM

A lot of people still don't realize that the Dreamcast was still part of the last generation of consoles. I've always wondered if Sega could fight Microsoft if they managed to keep the system alive.

Still, Power Stone /Shenmue / Sonic Adventure FTW! I might even pick up Soul Calibur now.

Tetrahedron

02-18-2006, 10:47 AM

....

paranoia4422

02-18-2006, 10:54 AM

honestly i think sega should sign a contract to be MS exclusive so they can handle 2nd party games and microsoft can handle the hardware

sethmo

02-18-2006, 11:31 AM

Man thats awesome. I loved my Dreamcast and I love overhead shooters like that. I used to play them in the arcade all the time and I have an awesome one on my cell phone called SkyForce. But I lost my Dreamcast when I moved, now I must find another one. I loved playing any of the Dave Mirra BMX games!

JonnyK

02-18-2006, 05:10 PM

there are rumors flying around that 50+ dreamcast games will be released over xbox live arcade for $10 a piece by 2007.

paranoia4422

02-18-2006, 05:19 PM

there are rumors flying around that 50+ dreamcast games will be released over xbox live arcade for $10 a piece by 2007.
lol what? thatd be awsome though

Lamont

02-18-2006, 05:30 PM

DC had the best 2D fighting games HANDS DOWN!!

raystorm

02-18-2006, 05:54 PM

DC had the best 2D fighting games HANDS DOWN!!

One could argue that the Sega Saturn (which I loved to death) had the best 2D fighters too! All the great Capcom fighters like the entire Street Fighter Alpha series, Street Fighter Collection, Xmen vs Streetfighter (I was blown away by the perfect port when it first came out years ago), Marvel Super Heroes, Marvel Super Heroes vs SF, all the great SNK NeoGeo ports like Samurai Shodown 3, 4, King of Fighters 95 and up to '98, Real Bout Fatal Fury...etc.. Plus you had lots of great shoot' em ups like Radiant Silvergun, Soukyugurentai (Terra Diver)..etc.. a tradition the DC also continued. Man..I loved the Saturn. Too bad it crapped out everywhere else but Japan (like the video showed it was successful in Japan for the most part due to the hardcore arcade gamer).

Y'know..DC games still look quite fine today. Its not that much below the PS2 in graphics quality. Some would say that some games have better textures on the DC than the PS2 though I haven't played a DC game in a long time so I can't remember really.

I've been a Sega fan myself since I played Space Harrier and OutRun back in 1986 and purchased a Sega Master System to play the ports of those games. I don't love the Sega of today as much as the older Sega but playing their older games via emulation or the Sega Ages remakes sure brings back the memories.

Wildfire

02-18-2006, 06:44 PM

I loved my Dreamcast, and thought the graphics were every bit as good as what else was out there at the time. To think, I actually enjoyed playing Shenmue ;)

Chomp

02-18-2006, 07:57 PM

I loved Shenmue. One of my fav.games of all time.

To think that I gave away my dreamcast + 20 games a few years ago :(

johnnq

02-18-2006, 08:32 PM

i'll go hug my n64 :)

polive

02-19-2006, 11:07 PM

Dreamcast was awesome, I had a 3DO at one point too!

slza805

02-20-2006, 12:25 AM

Dreamcast will never die! Tetra has a good point!!! :p

DC is the best console ever released, just because it failed in terms of sales doesnt make it bad... think about it... NSYNC sold alot of albums, more than TooL or something, does that make NSYNC better than TooL... Hell No!

theNoid

02-20-2006, 01:29 AM

honestly i think sega should sign a contract to be MS exclusive so they can handle 2nd party games and microsoft can handle the hardware

Getting there ...

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1020755

Molingrad

02-20-2006, 11:20 AM

i never had a dreamcast but used to play it at my cousins house

i found shenmue to be the most amazing thing ever

polive

02-20-2006, 11:45 AM

power stone=awesome, soul calibur=awesome, sonic adv=awesome, street fighter 3:3rd strike=TEH WIN!

Blue Falcon

02-20-2006, 11:46 AM

I actually collect Dreamcasts. No kidding, I still think that next to the GameCube the Dreamcast has the most charm and highest build quality ever. The games were totally unique and mostly high rated, and the system could hold it's own today if it had the high billing that the PS2 and XBox have.... sadly things didn't turn out that way.

PNut12345

02-20-2006, 12:26 PM

Has anyone here played Half-Life for the DC? I know there are a few copies out there floating around. Just curious as to how it performs, and how it stacks up to the PS2 version that came out later. HL for the DC=most frsutrating time of my life. EBGames kept putting up a release date, I'd call on said date, and be told that it had been pushed back. I must've been crushingly dissapointed a dozen times in 2000.

zerogt86

02-20-2006, 12:52 PM

I'm glad i got my dc when i did, ive had alot of fun times with it. Jet Grind Radio blew me away, wow that really was a fun game...

Slartibartfast

02-21-2006, 12:09 PM

DC had the best 2D fighting games HANDS DOWN!!

With my tax return cash I bought a used copy of Last Blade 2, and a copy of Mark Of The Wolves brand new! Should be here this week :D

Dreamcast showed the world how to do a console launch right. Too bad nobody listened.

spydermonkey

02-21-2006, 01:30 PM

The Shenmue 80 man battle at the end of the game will always have a place in my heart. :(

Viper87227

02-21-2006, 03:01 PM

A life is spared (http://games.kikizo.com/news/200508/141_p1.asp)

Oh man, the thought of Shenmue 1-3 all in one game on a next gen console... Sweet. I have a 360 already, and will probably buy a PS3, however if this was exclusive to one system, and I didn't already have it, it would be *the* system seller.

I just wonder if a.) they will beef up the first two games to make them look next gen and b.) allow you to skip right to part 2 or 3 if you have already played and beaten a shenmue game. Even in next gen, fork lifts get old really fast :D

synergyo1

02-21-2006, 03:38 PM

I'll buy a console just for Shenmue :)

Json23

02-21-2006, 03:44 PM

What about the 360 offering Dreamcast titles via LIVE dowload service?

I really want to play the dreamcast Spawn game in 720p, with LIVE multi-player. (it was the ONLY good Spawn game made to date)

finalgt

02-21-2006, 03:52 PM

The only next-gen system I would want to see Shenmue on would be the Revolution. It's the spiritual successor to the Dreamcast, in my eyes.

Spaceman_Spiff

02-21-2006, 10:17 PM

Dreamcast failed cause of sega's complete inability to control piracy. Initially, all you needed was a bootdisk to load copied games, and soon thereafter utilities were out to make games autoboot with absolutely no modification to the hardware whatsoever. Yes, the graphics were nice and it had some cool gimmicks, but it was sega's fault for not protecting it. I know many dreamcast owners who bought 0 games for their system. I remember people trading games in high school, just because they could. Yeah, its nice in theory to say it wasnt that big of a problem or that it should have succeeded anyway, but the bottom line is that if the company makes it that easy to do, people are gonna do it, especially high school and college age kids who dont exactly have money pouring into their bank accounts. In its age that was a large portion of the market for video game sales.

pigwalk

02-21-2006, 11:02 PM

Dreamcast failed cause of sega's complete inability to control piracy.

B.S. Where I live there are more stores dedicated to selling bootlegged PS2, Xbox and PC games than legit shops. In fact, I've never seen one of those systems sold, even in legit Sony dealers, without a mod chip preinstalled. However there is NO Gamecube piracy whatsoever (afaik and see).

By your logic shouldn't Gamecube be the successful console out then?

-pig

Spaceman_Spiff

02-21-2006, 11:10 PM

B.S. Where I live there are more stores dedicated to selling bootlegged PS2, Xbox and PC games than legit shops. In fact, I've never seen one of those systems sold, even in legit Sony dealers, without a mod chip preinstalled. However there is NO Gamecube piracy whatsoever (afaik and see).

By your logic shouldn't Gamecube be the successful console out then?

-pig

Uh, where do you live exactly? You've never seen a ps2 or xbox sold without a modchip installed? There are more bootleg stores than legit dealers? I'll bet any of the dozen best buys/circuit cities/gamestops/eb games within 10 minutes of my house sell more than all those stores combined. The fact remains, piracy on those systems is not widespread in mainstream (read: people who buy madden every single year) console use, as it was on the dreamcast, and these are the people who drive the market as a whole.

kohan69

02-21-2006, 11:55 PM

Let's not debate about piracy. SEGA made a mistake of leaving backup bios on the final consoles, and another company was stupid enough to make a bootdisk "just to show", and it got leaked. SEGA thought they were secure with the GD-ROM, which could be read by a modified CDROM drive. 98% of all Dreamcast games pirated was by one single group: echelon, who are now a big releaser of PS2 games as well. The latest version of dreamcast did NOT play self-boot pirated games, and required a modchip. However, that latest version is one of the fewest sold, since SEGA stopped production.

Gamecube does have piracy, and is rather easy to exploit, *read forums rules, deletes 2 sentances*, it requires only a special game, a something something, and modifying the top of the case. So, it's not AS easy, but it's pretty much as easy as PlayStation 1

Now xbox360 has the same overprotection with it's encrypted executables -that's it.
Microsoft is relying on soley their encryption to save them form piracy. As many of you know, you can burn the a k??sk disk, and play the demos on your 360.
Hell, you can download the official xbox360's xbox1 emulator and burn it, to install it.

However, M$ has the advantage of forcing people to update via xbox live.

Back on topic,

The new games for Dreamcast are:

Under defeat (http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=33&products_id=8506&) (Mar 23, 2006)

Radigy (http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=33&products_id=8308&)

and for latest homebrew games (some are really good!) check out:
http://www.dchomebrew.org/

spydermonkey

02-22-2006, 12:18 AM

If you can get a hold of it, Gamecube's precious Ikaruga (http://www.gamespot.com/dreamcast/action/ikaruga/screenindex.html) was originally on Dreamcast. SOOOOOO FuN1!11!!!!!

rtgordon

02-22-2006, 01:12 AM

This is the best thread I have seen here in a long time. I sold my xbox and ps2, but I still have my DC LOL! (saving for 360 :o )

My all time DC favorites:

1. virtua tennis
2. soul caliber
3. shenmue
4. crazy taxi
5. ecco (the visual/graphics on that game were stunning IMO)

The system was very nice. I liked it. I am surprised to learn about new releases, tho :D .

kohan69

02-22-2006, 01:32 AM

{NG}Fidel

02-22-2006, 01:36 AM

The Sega Dreamcast had a Solid Launch Title and amazing quality in a small foot print with 4 player support and online play. But Sony BSed their way to number 1 and bought the support they needed. Since the PS2 Launch Sony has gotten much better at being "Sincere" still I only wish the Dream Cast had made as much of a impression in the gaming world as it did me. That console is Freaking amazing and I still have mine with all its games to this day. Next to the Genisis the DreamCast Ranks Supreme.

zero002021

02-22-2006, 01:57 AM

The day Sega left the hardware business, I lost the urge to play console games and couldn't really play more than a couple hours per month for a while. I keep hoping that one day, I'll wake up to see a news post regarding Sega getting back into the hardware business with an all new console. Of course, that's only a dream and the chances of it actually happening are slim.

Oh well, I've got a Genesis, Sega CD, Saturn, and my beloved Dreamcast at home. I'm never getting rid of any and I will cherish them forever. :)

WaterproofPaper

02-22-2006, 02:46 AM

Gamecube does have piracy, and is rather easy to exploit, *read forums rules, deletes 2 sentances*, it requires only a special game, a something something, and modifying the top of the case. So, it's not AS easy, but it's pretty much as easy as PlayStation 1]

Nintendo consoles are funny.. they all require breaking something to either A) Play imports, or B) pirate games.

On topic: No one out there who liked jet grind radio? :(. Oh, and wasnt the only online game phantasy star online? (kinda like gamecube)

kohan69

02-22-2006, 02:51 AM

Oh, and wasnt the only online game phantasy star online? (kinda like gamecube)

32 online games, 14+ LAN games, and 13 games with online content :rolleyes:

source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dreamcast_network_games)

finalgt

02-22-2006, 07:08 AM

Nintendo consoles are funny.. they all require breaking something to either A) Play imports, or B) pirate games.You make it sound like it was a bad business move on Nintendo's part to block people from doing either. Pretty amazing opinion, if you ask me.

Deadsexy

02-22-2006, 07:24 AM

LOL, so many dreamcast !!!!!!s. I had one over a ps2 and I liked a few games A LOT but honestly if I think back I remember being disappionted over and over again by the dreamcast game releases beyond launch w/ nfl2k and soul calibur. The toy game sucked, that mech game zero something had horrid framerate issues, all the ports were very unimpressive, ect....

It had a few cool games but lets not get caught up in the anti sony/sega hype and make the cast seem so much better then it really was.

pigwalk

02-22-2006, 09:32 AM

Anyone found a way to silence the DC a bit? That damn GD reader is loud as balls!

-pig

Slartibartfast

02-22-2006, 09:50 AM

PS2 vs DREAMCAST, technical comparison (http://member.telpacific.com.au/trat2422/d-ps.html)
-Please comment only if you can understand what the numbers mean.

As for the realistic comparions, the 2 systems can both perform rather stunningly, because ecco the dolphin looks great on both (http://www.gamepilgrimage.com/EccoComp.htm)

PS2 does lack antialiasing though DEAD OR ALIVE looks better on dreamcast (http://forum.teamxbox.com/showpost.php?p=2098246&postcount=40)

Please remember, the grpahics you see on PS2 today is the result of 5+ years of programmers learning this pain-in-the-ass hardware. Dreamcast was out for only 2-3 years, if the development continued, and the hardware was further programmed for, we would have similar, if not better, graphics on the Dreamcast than on the ps2

For best graphical experience however, I recommend playing ecco the dolphin on the dreamcast emulator: chankast (http://chanka.emulatronia.com/FrameSetDC_DC.htm)

Thanks for the linkage, that's an interesting article. I definitely notice the horrid jaggies on the PS2 as compared to the DC, and to me it makes the DC look better.

The Dreamcast is such a fascinating console because it still maintains such a devoted fanbase, and had a great launch, yet lasted only a few years because of the Sony hype machine. This is a perfect illustration of the ways in which gaming is reaching the mainstream: the PS1 sold fantastically well to people who were non-gamers because of the 3D graphics and the Madden games. The Dreamcast lacked the EA sports titles, so none of the fratboys bought it, and went for the PS2. I think that the "Sega" brand still meant "dork" to a lot of people at that point, whereas the Playstation was considered cool. There is almost nobody who considers themselves a gamer and thought that the Dreamcast sucked, and I think that almost all of us wishes Sega was making hardware.

Although, who here honestly liked the Dreamcast controller? The xbox controller S is what the DC controller should have been.

KJ43

02-22-2006, 09:51 AM

Funny, but I've started playing Shenmue II again. Not on my Dreamcast (which I still own) but on my PC using Chankast.

I always loved my Dreamcast ever since playing the first Shenmue and Seaman. SF Rush 2049 is another favorite.

Json23

02-22-2006, 10:01 AM

Too bad you guys didn't spend more money (or more of us that did) on the dreamcast back when it was still being sold, it could still be alive and kicking.

It failed for a reason people.

Slartibartfast

02-22-2006, 10:05 AM

Too bad you guys didn't spend more money (or more of us that did) on the dreamcast back when it was still being sold, it could still be alive and kicking.

It failed for a reason people.

Hey, don't be hatin'. I was in highschool with no job when it came out, and then I was in college when it died. Excuse me for not being able to magically pull $299 out of my ass :rolleyes: If I could have bought one I would have, and I plan on ordering a new one off of www.gamequestdirect.com when I have some spare cash.

Json23

02-22-2006, 10:36 AM

Hey, don't be hatin'. I was in highschool with no job when it came out, and then I was in college when it died. Excuse me for not being able to magically pull $299 out of my ass If I could have bought one I would have, and I plan on ordering a new one off of www.gamequestdirect.com when I have some spare cash.

I was in highschool too. And I had a $6.75/hr job at wal-mart and bought one myself. That is no excuse! :p

And I am certainly not " hatin' ". I am just sad that there wasn't more of us capable of supporting the console.

Oh well, the PS2 came out and it was a superior console in almost every way. (even though I hate it now) Then the Xbox came out and the rest is history. It is not like the Dreamcast was replaced by inferior products.

I wish that Nintendo would release another virtual boy, only this time in color and without the neck cramps. Maybe just a headset with a small controller that you can wear while taking long trips or sitting in your bed. It wouldn't be hard to do I don't imagine.

Slartibartfast

02-22-2006, 10:42 AM

I was in highschool too. And I had a $6.75/hr job at wal-mart and bought one myself. That is no excuse! :p

And I am certainly not " hatin' ". I am just sad that there wasn't more of us capable of supporting the console.

Oh well, the PS2 came out and it was a superior console in almost every way. (even though I hate it now) Then the Xbox came out and the rest is history. It is not like the Dreamcast was replaced by inferior products.

I wish that Nintendo would release another virtual boy, only this time in color and without the neck cramps. Maybe just a headset with a small controller that you can wear while taking long trips or sitting in your bed. It wouldn't be hard to do I don't imagine.

I hear ya. I didn't get a job until about a year after the DC came out, and then it was minimum wage anyway. Besides, back then I didn't realize how cool it was. We had an N64 and so did all my friends, I really wasn't exposed to the DC until it was almost gone :( It's too bad, Sega certainly deserved my money more than Sony does.

I have a virtual boy too, but honestly I don't think the games were all that great. My favorites were probably Red Alarm, Wario World and Nester's Funky Bowling.

K600

02-22-2006, 10:48 AM

Json23

02-22-2006, 10:52 AM

:p at the PS2 being superior. Perhaps now, but not when it was first released; the ridiculously contrived hardware architecture and mediocre software (SMUGGLER'S RUN ZOMG FUN...not) put it on a pedestal far below that of the Dreamcast.

I hated saying that as much as you hated hearing it, trust me. But it is true no matter how you look at it.

Slartibartfast

02-22-2006, 10:55 AM

I hated saying that as much as you hated hearing it, trust me. But it is true no matter how you look at it.

That article that was posted earlier comparing the tech specs between the PS2 and DC was actually pretty enlightening: what I took from it is that while the PS2 has more raw power, the DC is far more efficient - it can decompress textures in realtime, as well as skip drawing unseen polygons, both of which the PS2 cannot do.

kohan69

02-22-2006, 02:25 PM

That article that was posted earlier comparing the tech specs between the PS2 and DC was actually pretty enlightening: what I took from it is that while the PS2 has more raw power, the DC is far more efficient - it can decompress textures in realtime, as well as skip drawing unseen polygons, both of which the PS2 cannot do.

Yes. The dreamcast is easily comparable to PS2 as xbox360 to PS3

Flak Pyro

02-22-2006, 02:28 PM

i liked sumgglers run :( and the original SSX

michealo

02-22-2006, 02:53 PM

don't forget they gave the dreamcast away for free (after a mail in rebate) near the end of it's cycle, and people still didn't bite

personally, i blamed the controllers and VMU's for its failure
(well, lack of certain 3rd party devs hurt too)

Json23

02-22-2006, 03:06 PM

personally, i blamed the controllers

I must be the only person on this planet that actually liked the big @ss controllers. :rolleyes:

odoe

02-22-2006, 03:12 PM

I have 2 DC and about a dozen controllers, even a couple of arcade pads for it. Great little machine.

jtsnewo4

02-22-2006, 03:25 PM

I must be the only person on this planet that actually liked the big @ss controllers. :rolleyes:

I like dthe controller as well.

KJ43

02-22-2006, 04:09 PM

I bought my Dreamcast and games for it while it was on the market.

That said...playing DC games on my PC using Chankast makes me happy that I can use my cordless Rumblepad 2 instead of the old DC controller.

michealo

02-22-2006, 04:17 PM

well, it wasn't that it was big, i felt it could have been bigger

it was the odd sharp angle the edges that make my wrists ache not long after playing

i prefer a wider xbox, or ps controller

as a quick diagram, the DC controller kept your arms in a more vertical position
red lines
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/pilanthas/sega.jpg

when a rounder controller with bigger grips would allow a relaxed handling.
blue lines

i think there was 3rd party controllers that created this, but always looked real cheap
*edit, found one
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx_assets/product_images/222551.jpg

Slartibartfast

02-22-2006, 04:19 PM

Exactly, I hate how the DC controller makes it so my wrists are closer together than my palms, it's just plain uncomfortable. Also, wtf is up with that d-pad, anyway?

Domingo

02-22-2006, 06:12 PM

I think the whole idea of the Dreamcast is just funny. When it came out, if all of these !!!!!!s and hype machines were around pushing it...it would've actually been successful for more than a year.
Yes, it was a precursor to some of the current game features we now enjoy...but no more than saying "Grand Tourismo 4 is actually Rad Racer 36!"

Fact is, Sega had one successful system in their history and people seem to forget all of their failures. Go hunting around to some used games stores and count the wonderful items for the Master System, Sega CD, 32X, Saturn, Game Gear, etc.

The Dreamcast was their last shot and while it was a decent system that was a little ahead of it's time...it was virtually an entire generation behind the competition that came not long afterward. The fact that Sega was notorious for failed hardware by that point kept a lot of people away, too. After getting burned by the Sega CD and Saturn, I stayed the hell away and most of the serious gamers I know did the same.

All of these wonderful games that it had usually amount to...Sould Calibur and very little else.

I think a lot of people either yearn for nostalgia or just enjoy the fact that it was a pirate's dream. You could copy games just like a PC...but sans ANY protection.

I'm sure it's been said before, but it DID have the 2nd worst controller ever (can't forget the Jaguar), too.

K600

02-22-2006, 06:51 PM

I think the whole idea of the Dreamcast is just funny. When it came out, if all of these !!!!!!s and hype machines were around pushing it...it would've actually been successful for more than a year.

1. Grow up and stop using the word "f-a-n-b-o-y". It's ignorant and immature.

2. No amount of support would have circumvented the baseless hype that surrounded the PS2 (Which was largely unimpressive until Gran Turismo 3).

3. The Dreamcast provided features that the PS2 wasn't even close to reaching.

4. Anyone who knows the hardware knows that the PS2, while more powerful, isn't nearly as refined as the Dreamcast. The fact that it died doesn't mean that it was anywhere near reaching maximum potential.

Fact is, Sega had one successful system in their history and people seem to forget all of their failures. Go hunting around to some used games stores and count the wonderful items for the Master System, Sega CD, 32X, Saturn, Game Gear, etc.

The Master System and Saturn were quite popular in Japan and ended up selling over 10 million each. Are those sales monumental? No, but they're not abysmal failures either.

The Dreamcast was their last shot and while it was a decent system that was a little ahead of it's time...it was virtually an entire generation behind the competition that came not long afterward.

Wow...just wow. Do some research before you make statements like that next time.

The fact that Sega was notorious for failed hardware by that point kept a lot of people away, too. After getting burned by the Sega CD and Saturn, I stayed the hell away and most of the casual gamers I know did the same.

Fixed for accuracy.

The launch and following software for the Dreamcast were far better than anything the PS2 had to offer in its first year.

All of these wonderful games that it had usually amount to...Sould Calibur and very little else.

Dumbest Post of the Day.

finalgt

02-22-2006, 06:54 PM

Haha...yeah, Soul Calibur and little else. Crazy Taxi, Sonic Adventure, all the 2K sports games, PSO...off the top of my head. This is the part where you say, "I didn't actually own/play any DC games, that's just the impression I got."

Domingo

02-22-2006, 07:05 PM

"f-a-n-b-o-y" is the proper term for someone who has this crazy fanaticism for some random corporation to the point of justifying his/her support of them to the point of ignoring anything that doesn't fit what they want to hear. If there's a better term, I'd like to see it. Nintendo has 'em, Sony has 'em, and so does Microsoft.

Name some of these wonderful Dreamcast games that we should've all went out and bought. Now compare them to the PS1 or eventually the PS2. How many were Dreamcast exclusives with no port or comparable game on another system? At the time, unless it was a Sega 1st party game....not many. I'm sure someone's going to post a big ass list of them...but when that happens, make note of how many these games actually sold, and compare them to the closest thing to it on other system.

As far as research goes...look up some financials on Sega. My college roommate actually wrote his final Global Econ. paper on the rise and fall of Sega back in '02. The actual $'s don't lie.

sethmo

02-22-2006, 07:11 PM

I didnt even know you could pirate the DC games untill near the end of its era. None of my friends did either, we all bought our games. I lived in a little dink town in the middle of Iowa so go figure. I worked at a retail store that went out of business about the same time the DC was. I got a lot of games and a second DC for real cheap, also snagged some N64 games that used to be $70 or $80 for cheap along with the expansion RAM module for the N64 so I could play Perfect Dark nice and pretty haha. Some of those N64 games were expensive back in the day!

chojin_1999

02-22-2006, 07:11 PM

Alright, before anybody else starts spouting "facts", lets all read up a little wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Dreamcast) on this subject.

I owned and loved my Dreamcast. It was pretty much my Soul Calibur (http://www.gamespot.com/dreamcast/action/soulcalibur/review.html?mode=gsreview) machine since at that time I was into tournament play (Soul Calibur II didn't really change mechanics all that much) so this was a way to keep my skillz refined. After playing games on this machine there was no way you couldn't see the potential it had. Alas, potential doesn't sell systems/games. Poor business management in general by Sega and their refocus on being a 3rd party developer pretty much made this an oldie but goodie console.

Hey, where's the Turbo-Grafx 16 threads at?!

K600

02-22-2006, 07:23 PM

Sorry, but:

Sales =! Quality (Example? Enter the Matrix. The game wasn't even finished and it sold over a million units in the first week.)

By implying otherwise, you've basically written your status of a casual, ignorant gamer in stone.

To satisfy your immature request, here are the ones I remember. I'm sure I've missed some, but those are the ones I own or have owned in the past.

Marvel Vs. Capcom 2
Soul Calibur
Hydro Thunder
Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike
Gunbird 2
House of the Dead 2
Mars Matrix
Dead or Alive 2
MDK2
Rayman 2
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
Skies of Arcadia
Grandia 2
Phantasy Star Online
Virtua Tennis
Jet Set Radio
Capcom Vs SNK 2
Metropolis Street Racer
NFL2K1
NBA2K1
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
Test Drive Le Mans
Ferrari F355
Chu Chu Rocket
Gunbird 2
House of the Dead 2
Mars Matrix
Ikaruga
Shenmue
Powerstone
Powerstone 2
Shenmue 2
Ecco the Dolphin
Resident Evil: Code Veronica
Crazy Taxi
Crazy Taxi 2
Samba de Amigo
Seaman

jtsnewo4

02-22-2006, 07:47 PM

I didn't see my favorite DC fighting game on that list:

Tech Romancer.

http://www.stratosgroup.com/reviews/games.php?selected=0006tech

K600

02-22-2006, 07:48 PM

I didn't see my favorite DC fighting game on that list:

Tech Romancer.

http://www.stratosgroup.com/reviews/games.php?selected=0006tech

I forgot Virtua On: Oratorio Tangram as well.

chojin_1999

02-22-2006, 09:20 PM

Oh man, this is making me all nostalgic about my Dreamcast. I LOVED my Dreamcast Arcade Joystick by Agetek (http://www.planetdreamcast.com/hardware/controllers/). That was the most well-made arcade joystick I've ever owned. The thing was so heavy you could actually use it as a weapon. I wish I had an adapter to play it on my PS2. The Dreamcast was a kick-ass system for fighting games.

chojin_1999

02-22-2006, 09:27 PM

Oh my GOD! How could I forget Samba de Amigo (http://dreamcast.ign.com/articles/164/164748p1.html)????

rm19

02-22-2006, 09:39 PM

I played the DC more and bought more games for it than any other system to date, incl. Xbox and PS2. Almost every single game was a winner. As my buddy used to say, "Dreamcast was the best system evarr in the history of evarr!!"

kohan69

02-22-2006, 09:48 PM

What Microsoft should have done was team up with Sega to buy all their unsold Dreamcasts and just use them as controllers for the Xbox. It probably would have been smaller than the 8 lb atrocity that they have now.
Great read (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=xbox_suckit)

Hulk

02-22-2006, 09:48 PM

Does anyone have any info on this Headhunter 2 game?

It looks a lot like GTA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Headhunter_2.jpg

Hulk

02-22-2006, 09:55 PM

kohan69

02-22-2006, 10:05 PM

Does anyone have any info on this Headhunter 2 game?

:rolleyes:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/618/bart9bs.gif

google it (http://www.google.com/search?q=headhunter+dreamcast&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official)

http://www.sega.com/gamesite/headhunter/

http://www.gamespot.com/dreamcast/adventure/headhunter/index.html

K600

02-22-2006, 10:42 PM

"By the time Sega decided to cease development of the Dreamcast, about 10 million consoles had been sold"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Dreamcast

You would think that 10 million people who bought your product would keep you in business.

Not when you're selling at a loss.

The Dreamcast launched at $199, which was well under what it cost to make (Like the Xbox and PS2). Unfortunately, they couldn't afford to advertise their software, which meant they wouldn't sell as much of it.

Slartibartfast

02-23-2006, 09:01 AM

All of these wonderful games that it had usually amount to...Sould Calibur and very little else.

lol I'm with K600 on this one. I own more than twice as many DC games (17) as I do PS2 games (7), and honestly there's only like 4 or 5 more PS2 games that I want. The DC is a gamer's dream come true, esp. if you like arcade games. I love 2D fighting and nothing comes close to what the DC has to offer. And I don't even own Soul Calibur.

As for Sega's other systems, yeah the 32x and the Sega CD were pretty crappy, but you'll notice that the Saturn has a following similar to that of the DC. Sega has always been a source of fantastic games, they just aren't very good at the business side of things.

Qwertyman

02-23-2006, 12:01 PM

probably the area i had most fun with dreamcast was the rpg's, Grandia II, and Skies of Arcadia - they were amazing. The colors, the adventure, the side-quests, it was fanastic.

I wasn't crazy about the controller especially with racing games like crazy taxi and test drive le-mans, which were again both great.

Dreamcast was still innovative, risky (think samba, seaman, and the fishing controller) and cared more about its gamers "fun factor" than any other modern system, IMO.

EGM had a great article comparing games and system from NBA LIVE 06 from xbox to xbox360 it was a cool factor, but from Soul Blade PS to Soul Calibur just WOW! Still to this day that game is beautiful.

The fact that the arcade jamma boards and the dreamcast system were the same components made all the games amazingly easy to port.

jtsnewo4

02-23-2006, 12:36 PM

I'll never forget the first time I was playing NFL2k with my brothers and my mom walked int he room and asked us how we were watching an NFL game on a weekday morning. :D

If I had to pick a single system, and could only have that system and the games that were available for it, I would have to pick the DC to play. I think it just barely edges out the SNES as my favorite system.

kohan69

02-24-2006, 03:37 PM

Slartibartfast

02-24-2006, 04:45 PM

To satisfy your immature request, here are the ones I remember. I'm sure I've missed some, but those are the ones I own or have owned in the past.

You forgot Bangai-O! 20 minutes of playing that game was all it took to convince me to get a Dreamcast. One of my all-time favorite games.

qtip1970

02-24-2006, 07:54 PM

and what about 4x4 EVO

nigerian_businessman

02-26-2006, 11:50 PM

That article that was posted earlier comparing the tech specs between the PS2 and DC was actually pretty enlightening: what I took from it is that while the PS2 has more raw power, the DC is far more efficient - it can decompress textures in realtime, as well as skip drawing unseen polygons, both of which the PS2 cannot do.

Funny thing about that, Dreamcast used a variant of the KYRO graphics chip, if you remember those cards. They were out around the reign of the GF2MX.

fireburster

02-28-2006, 01:26 AM

Ocean

02-28-2006, 01:49 AM

unreal tournament online and quake 3 online with a mouse and kb.

jet grind radio.

soul calibur.

shenmue.

dead or alive 2.

skies of arcadia

internet access on my tv for $150 !!!!

it was an amazing system.

Slartibartfast

02-28-2006, 04:45 PM

so i got a dreamcast and its a dec 2000 model that doesnt play any homebrew games. seems it doesnt even play cds. None of the game shops around me even have games for this. I think i got mine a little late.

lol yeah, the only stores that carry dc games anymore are independently owned. try www.gamequestdirect.com for lots of new and sealed dc games (man I love that site - and no I don't work for them).

sabbycon

03-02-2006, 02:05 AM

Thats right i got it a year before the american relase. I dont even have the modem its supposed to come with i got some kinda terminator device on it (never knew what it did as it runs with out it). It came with all the games released at the time and they were all in japanese lol. firtual fighter 3 stoped working after like a month of continual play because of a minor scratch( gd-roms had horrible fault protection).

Man i love my dreamcast its actually the only system i still play and i have the saturn too but its kinda not played anymore seeing how i fell in love with marvel vs capcom 2 and sf3 third strike instead of x-men vs street fighter series. it was so advanced as a system at the time infact its water cooled yeah thats right the very first water cooled pc\console (i call it a pc because it had everything a pc does minus hard drive). Im going to buy the new game when and if it comes out and i think every one else should to just to show how much we loved and still love the dreamcast and sega. Sega you are missed in the console world. :(

chojin_1999

03-02-2006, 01:48 PM

Well, it did run on Windows CE :eek:

Slartibartfast

03-03-2006, 09:27 AM

Man i love my dreamcast its actually the only system i still play and i have the saturn too but its kinda not played anymore seeing how i fell in love with marvel vs capcom 2 and sf3 third strike instead of x-men vs street fighter series.

Actually, MvC2 is the fourth game in the x-men vs street fighter series :)

PSYKOMANTIS

03-03-2006, 09:59 AM

DREAMCAST... How I love thee, let me count the ways.

Noteable Favorites from the PsykoMantis top 500 games of my lifetime:

Tokyo Extreme Racer 1 and 2
Die Hard (that one fighting game aboard the ship with those strange shanghai pirates)
SHENMUE 1 and 2
NOTE: motherfucking Yu Suzuki, PLEASE let me see fucking LAN DI get his fucking justice for killing Ryo's father and let us see the Dragon Mirrors back where they belong
EVERY PERFECT PORT of CAPCOM Fighters thank you.
Soul Calibur
Power Stone
The perfect DAYTONA USA port THANK YOU SEGA
Ultimate Fighting Championship
NOTE: for those MANY MANY nights drinking beer and eating pizza with friends
VIRTUA TENNIS 1 and 2 nuff said
NFL Football Series
NOTE: best console football with the nostalgic "You can't coach that" phrase.
Resident Evil Code Veronica ... WOW
Air Force Delta
ILLBLEED because that game was just cool
NBA Showtime on NBC
NOTE: Soo many wasted moments playing this game with my buddy the MG
Sega Bass + Marine Fishing OMG THE FISHING CONTROLLER GET~!
San Francisco RUSH 2049
NOTE: OMG BEST FUCKING MULTIPLAYER SPLIT SCREEN EVAR!
Silent Scope
Zombie Revenge
NOTE: that one shooting game with the black afro dude and tons of zombies. What a cool brainless amount of FUN this title was

I'm sure there's a couple more but those are at the least the ones that stood out the most to me.

The DC was a PURE arcade machine. Only if there was a way I could take all my games, make an ISO share on a HDD, and link the DC hardware to a cabinet with high quality controllers so there's no changing discs and such.

VIVA LOS DREAMCAST!

kohan69

03-20-2006, 04:51 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XxLLhwCx4cM

A Hilarious video of Dreamcast VS PS2

Qwertyman

03-20-2006, 05:54 PM

does ebgames or gamespot sell dc games anymore? I'm looking for rayman 2

Slartibartfast

03-20-2006, 06:44 PM

does ebgames or gamespot sell dc games anymore? I'm looking for rayman 2

http://www.gamequestdirect.com/

this place sells a fair amount of new DC games, dunno if R2 is in there or not tho.

Qwertyman

03-20-2006, 08:15 PM

http://www.gamequestdirect.com/

this place sells a fair amount of new DC games, dunno if R2 is in there or not tho.
not bad at all, but no rayman :-(

Slartibartfast

03-21-2006, 01:14 PM

not bad at all, but no rayman :-(

Bummer. I love that site though they have tons of awesome stuff. They even sell new and sealed dreamcasts.

pixelbender

03-03-2007, 05:46 AM

I'm sorry but this must be brought back to life.

I own a Wii, 360, Xbox (with 64, NES, SNES, ang Gen emulators), Genesis2, and a Dreamcast. Besides NHL 94 on the Genesis, I play my Dreamcast the most. It is just so easy to pick up and play. Why is it that you can't do that any more?

Frankly, I wish longer games would have been back then. Now we're all grown up and I along with my friends just don't have the time to sit around and play games all the time.

It also helps that you can d/l any DC game now as well. As far as piracy goes, I don't know that I agree that it killed the DC. If I remember correctly, back then we all had dial-up which took half an hour for an MP3, would have taken forever to DL a DC game. Not to mention, the first cd burners that consumers were getting were around that time as well, and ran for about $100 for an internal burner.

I love the VGA box, but mine isn't of that great of quality and I've already ordered the chip necessary to do the in-box VGA mod. I also plan on ordering a VGA-component converter so I can play it on my HDTV as well.

Lastly, can you image how awesome it would have been to have all the PS2 games that came out on the Dreamcast! They could have easily have done a rev 2 and it would have been so sick.

Pardon me, but SF Rush is calling...

movax

03-03-2007, 02:22 PM

zamardii

03-03-2007, 02:53 PM

Dreamcast showed the world how to do a console launch right. Too bad nobody listened.

That sir is my new sig for every forum I visit. I couldn't agree with you more. I still remember that day I opened up my Dreamcast and started playing Sonic. I had the biggest grin on my face for hours on end. The graphics were incredible, and it was amazingly fun. Even when I boot it up these days I can still feel like I did back then. I love the Dreamcast. And, it's still next to all my current consoles. I have my Wii, PS3, 360, and my Dreamcast still hooked up. I still order Dreamcast games off Ebay to this day. I just ordered Alone in the Dark: The New Nightmare. I rented it a long time ago. I need Crazy Taxi, and Power Stone really bad!

Apoxi

03-03-2007, 06:01 PM

GoldenTiger

03-03-2007, 07:30 PM

I'm shopping around for a DC to do the VGA mod to as well. I'm a young'un and missed out on it, I guess (I should say, my parents decided upon a N64 as my first console when I was young).

Shameless plug, anyone got a DC bundle you wanna toss me for ~$50 or so? Skies of Arcadia on the DC calls to me...

I have a launch-time DreamCast and a ton of games I bought during and after its lifetime... this thread has reminded me of it, sitting all alone on its shelf, yearning to be played again. Time to go google this "VGA mod", it sounds interesting :D!

EDIT: Apparrently there are pre-made cables that work the same way... does anyone know of a reputable vendor to get one from? Also, where can I get a lightgun for it? I still have 3 original controllers and the unit + a buncha games, but I'm looking to expand :).

Kahnvex

03-03-2007, 07:36 PM

I could really use a revamp of MDK2, the dreamcast version, not the PS2 one. I also need to pick up a new DC, mine crapped out years ago, but I've still got it. i didn't have the heart to throw it out.

Now that there are new mods to do vga ==> component in box, I think I may search around for one.

I still want to play that Zombie game, and how does Half Life look? I forgot all about that whole debacle...

PWMK2

03-03-2007, 07:52 PM

how does Half Life look?

They cancelled it... :(

Kahnvex

03-03-2007, 08:02 PM

Yep, i've got a copy for the dreamcast. The controls are a little awkward but overall it runs very smoothly and is lots o' fun. :)

Ummmmmmm. I knew that, but apparently it's out there amidst the tubes ^^^ So I was curious...

Unless you are calling Apoxi a liar? :p

pixelbender

03-03-2007, 08:07 PM

I have a launch-time DreamCast and a ton of games I bought during and after its lifetime... this thread has reminded me of it, sitting all alone on its shelf, yearning to be played again. Time to go google this "VGA mod", it sounds interesting :D!

EDIT: Apparrently there are pre-made cables that work the same way... does anyone know of a reputable vendor to get one from? Also, where can I get a lightgun for it? I still have 3 original controllers and the unit + a buncha games, but I'm looking to expand :).

I know racketboy sells them, but the website says they don't have many left so you should hurry. However those are just VGA cables and not the breakout box that also allows S-vid. I currently have a breakout box but the signal gets degraded and the it just isn't the quality it should be.

FYI if you really want VGA - I bought the only microchip needed brand new on eBay for $6 shipped. All I need now is a VGA plug from Radio shack, a few resistors and transistors, wire and solder. I think it'll be cleaner and give a better signal (not to mention be cheaper).

I'll post pics whenever I get the mod done. I also want to put S-vid, composite, and RCA stereo ports on the DC as well but it is going to be a tight fit so we'll see. Anyone know where I can get a 4-pin DIN to use for the s-vid port? RS doesn't seem to sell one.

pixelbender

03-03-2007, 08:09 PM

Ummmmmmm. I knew that, but apparently it's out there amidst the tubes ^^^ So I was curious...

Unless you are calling Apoxi a liar? :p

Speaking of things outthere on the intertubes - Propeller Arena is a MUST for any DC player! It would have been sooo amazing to have that with online play had they released it...

pigwalk

03-03-2007, 08:21 PM

Anyone know where I can get a power cable for the DC cheap? I usually have dozens of those cables around, but amidst many moves they've disappeared. Anyone have one to sell me for cheap :) I miss my DC, looking forward to some 4 player Gauntlet drunken madness again.

GoldenTiger

03-03-2007, 08:37 PM

I know racketboy sells them, but the website says they don't have many left so you should hurry. However those are just VGA cables and not the breakout box that also allows S-vid. I currently have a breakout box but the signal gets degraded and the it just isn't the quality it should be.

FYI if you really want VGA - I bought the only microchip needed brand new on eBay for $6 shipped. All I need now is a VGA plug from Radio shack, a few resistors and transistors, wire and solder. I think it'll be cleaner and give a better signal (not to mention be cheaper).

I'll post pics whenever I get the mod done. I also want to put S-vid, composite, and RCA stereo ports on the DC as well but it is going to be a tight fit so we'll see. Anyone know where I can get a 4-pin DIN to use for the s-vid port? RS doesn't seem to sell one.

Wow, racketboy is way overpriced compared to other sites I used to see with them instock not so long ago. Do you know of any other in-stock sites that aren't twice the price of others, or is that basically it now and you just have to live with the high price if you want it? I don't want to do the mod, heck, I doubt I could if I tried :). I've never heard of them either, so I'm not terribly comfortable ordering there.

Baker

03-04-2007, 09:50 AM

Have had my DreamCast since its release, love it to death, and will never get rid of it, (unless it just stops working) It gets played just as often as my other consoles, mostly so that me and my friends can geek out on MvC2 and SF3rd Strike. :)

NashTax

03-04-2007, 09:57 AM

I nearly forgot about DreamCast, it's been so long!

NashTax,
AnotherLaugh.com

SpeedRunner

03-04-2007, 10:13 AM

I bought more games for the Dreamcast then I have for any other console. In total I once had a collection of about 35 games. What an incredible system.

Jerome36

03-04-2007, 10:20 AM

I bought more games for the Dreamcast then I have for any other console. In total I once had a collection of about 35 games. What an incredible system.

Yup, I think I have more Dreamcast games, then all my other systems combined! Awesome system, and still my favorite of all time.

SpeedRunner

03-04-2007, 10:25 AM

Yup, I think I have more Dreamcast games, then all my other systems combined! Awesome system, and still my favorite of all time.

Yeah, and the amazing thing is, that I bought those 35 games in the course of 1-2 years. I don't ever remember so many good games coming out for a single console in such a short period of time. I wonder how many awesome Dreamcast titles we would have had if it survived?

jtsnewo4

03-04-2007, 12:11 PM

I still have Tech Romancer, one of my favorite fighting games of all time.

joemama

03-04-2007, 12:45 PM

A life is spared (http://games.kikizo.com/news/200508/141_p1.asp)

Any more recent news? That article is from 2005 and still calls the Wii "Revolution". Shenmue was the second game I bought for my Dreamcast after I played Soul Calibur for a couple months....I had an Xbox but never got Shenmue 2.:(

cornfield

03-04-2007, 05:12 PM

Soul calibur, Ikaruga, Sanfranscio RUSH 2049, SF III Strike, Bomberman Online (neverplayed online but with friends) to name a few. The Dreamcast is awesome.

pixelbender

03-04-2007, 08:31 PM

Any more recent news? That article is from 2005 and still calls the Wii "Revolution". Shenmue was the second game I bought for my Dreamcast after I played Soul Calibur for a couple months....I had an Xbox but never got Shenmue 2.:(

I'm pretty sure that we'll get Shenmue 3 when DNF comes out!

Sanitarium

03-04-2007, 09:37 PM

jtsnewo4

03-04-2007, 10:53 PM

Soul calibur, Ikaruga, Sanfranscio RUSH 2049, SF III Strike, Bomberman Online (neverplayed online but with friends) to name a few. The Dreamcast is awesome.

Word is that Ikaruha will be coming to XBLA. :D :D

zamardii

03-05-2007, 01:09 AM

I busted out my Dreamcast this weekend and played some Rez, Aero Wings and Sonic Adventure. I wish it hadn't died so soon, it had the most unique games of any system before or after it. One I've always wanted to try is Seaman, now that looks unique.

I've been wondering that myself, and i've been scouring Ebay for DC games for weeks now. I remember being in Best Buy, and seeing Seaman. It came with a microphone and was apparantly very unique because of it's voice recognition. Anyone have any thoughts about Seaman (from those who have played it).

TheCommander

03-05-2007, 11:01 PM

The DC was an excellent system. I'd still take it over anything Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft have currently put out.

GoldenTiger

03-06-2007, 12:24 AM

I want Marvel vs. Capcom 2 :D!!

pixelbender

03-06-2007, 02:50 AM

Anyone here done any mods to theirs? Anyone running it on VGA, if so what setup?

I thought about doing the speed increase but since I don't play xvids, vcds (anymore), or emulators on it I figured it wasn't worth taking the chance of screwing up other gameplay. I remember though, the first pirated movie I watched was the Fast and the Furious, cam version, VCD on the DC! Yeah baby!